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... the evenings have already started to 'lengthen' here - by one minute, starting Tuesday 17 December. Sadly, the mornings will go on 'shortening' until Friday 27 December - that will be the 'worst' they get until early January, when things (slowly) get better - but slowly is the word : it's not until the second half of January that you really begin to appreciate the lengthening days...
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Yep. Also, in addition, it takes longer for average, or mean temperatures to rise degree by degree from their lowest, as from tomorrow until midway through Feb, to highest, mid-July. Average or mean minima taken even longer to climb, remaining at 3 C until mid-March. Sunshine does have a role especially during the first half of the year in making it feel warmer than in the shade. Not that 2024 was a particularly sunshine-filled year!Originally posted by vinteuil View PostComment
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Quite a contrast temperature-wise the last two days, although both were windy, sunny and dry. Wednesday was mild(14 degrees max), very pleasant for my volunteer gardening stint and a good way to end before the Christmas site shutdown. Today the wind has swung round so down to low single digits, having nosedived during the night - not too nice for standing around waiting for buses as I had to do this morning for a hospital appointment.Comment
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Precisely how these big swings in temperature are coming about is of some interest in the meteorological world, if recent scientific papers I kind of half-understand are anything to go by. The so-called "Azores high" - a semi-permanent feature located over the named group of islands with tendencies to translocate north and south with the seasons - has been for some time observed to becoming positioned further north than had mostly been the case up to the 1980s, this being put down to climate change for all manner of complex reasons. More straightforwardly, this new positioning and enlarging of a feature which is of great importance in circulating north-bound transported warm air up into the northern Atlantic to affect neighbouring coastal regions, when put against the still very cold air masses to the north of the meteorologcal dividing lines, i.e. the frontal systems and associated depressions, which latter are thereby made correspondingly deeper, more wide-spreading and intense, makes for much longer "fetches", or in other words bigger distances in air flow travel. Air approaching Britain around this swollen Azores high has originated from much further south than was predominately the case 40 or 50 years ago other than in exceptional years which are now becoming more and more regular. Conversely too, air of polar origin approaching us from behind the much deeper depressions than previously, while not as cold as pre-climate change, (as evidence by Arctic ice shrinkage) is still at the present stage relatively cold in contrast. The resulting increased rainfall - that which is specific to the temperate latitudes* - and associated floods - is directly resultant on this increasing temperature gulf along the polar front which, in winter, we now experience as extreme temperature changes from day to day. America has it far worse, where huge landmass size trumps oceanic influence. In the Midwest they are currently going from heatwave forest fire to blizzard in matters of hours. Serves them right when not believing in (and actually contributing to) global warming!Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
*It should be added that rainfall amounts are in any case rising worldwide as a consequence of a warming troposphere's capacity for holding more moisture. Temperature contrasts across airmass (frontal) boundaries are an added factor.Comment
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Here in the 'real North' - Cumbrian Fells western edge - it is ice-cuttingly cold, with driving rain edgiing into sleet, temps hovering on 0C.
So...........if you hear a scream, it is me + plus those who shiver here - with frustrated rage when we next hear a comfortable, frienndly smilng BBC weather reporter who speaks of relenting temps etc.
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It was very cold here today and that was after the airflow from your neck of the woods had had a chance to ameliorate as it crossed the country, so I can well imagine it is/was bitter up there - and we didn't have the precipitation to contend with either.Originally posted by DracoM View PostHere in the 'real North' - Cumbrian Fells western edge - it is ice-cuttingly cold, with driving rain edgiing into sleet, temps hovering on 0C.
So...........if you hear a scream, it is me + plus those who shiver here - with frustrated rage when we next hear a comfortable, frienndly smilng BBC weather reporter who speaks of relenting temps etc.Comment
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Yup - chilling and smack on the button! Brrrrrrrr!
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Yet another flip - grey, but dry, little breeze and feeling very mild. Pleasant for my short constitutional, but I can think of better ways to activate my brain cells than trying to work out which outer layers/gloves/scarves to add or shed - although I suppose it does mean that wear gets shared between several items, rather than most on one.Comment
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The forecasts for the last couple of days indicated that there would be a let up today in the thick murk that has enveloped us since the night of the 25th, and that we might have proof the sun is still up there somewhere. So far all that's happened is that the fog has lifted(which will please drivers) and the grey has got higher and a tad thinner, so a fraction more light - but sun - nah. Looking at the time I can't see it happening now. Oh well, it's meant I can have the Christmas tree lit up all day!Comment
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That fog still hasn't lifted here in S London despite official predictions it would this afternoon. I can't wait for it to happen - as neither can my last week's laundry dripping on the line after four hours! We then have three days of mildishness before it is expected to get a lot colder, for a week or more - all that arctic air to the north long waiting to plunge down on us. But at least it will be sunnier!Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
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Well that was a surprise. I decided to take a break from finishing my tax return 15 minutes ago and thought the garden looked a bit odd when I glanced through the kitchen window - it was in sunlight! And lots of blue sky. Just in time to catch the willow branches in the border and highlight their warm bonfire colours.Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
That fog still hasn't lifted here in S London despite official predictions it would this afternoon. I can't wait for it to happen - as neither can my last week's laundry dripping on the line after four hours! We then have three days of mildishness before it is expected to get a lot colder, for a week or more - all that arctic air to the north long waiting to plunge down on us. But at least it will be sunnier!
Sorry you are still stuck with murk, but I have to say my spirits are definitely in a better state now - just as well as the next few days don't look to bring anything positive to the need to get out, even if only briefly(knee is very painful, cause as yet undetermined) for fresh air and exercise; even if my knee doesn't want/shouldn't have it(and when I can get an opinion on that who knows?) I do.Comment
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Observer today) and The i Newspaper yesterday both have the same picture by Danny Lawson (PA) purporting to demonstrate thick fog in Huddersfield...Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
That fog still hasn't lifted here in S London despite official predictions it would this afternoon. I can't wait for it to happen - as neither can my last week's laundry dripping on the line after four hours! We then have three days of mildishness before it is expected to get a lot colder, for a week or more - all that arctic air to the north long waiting to plunge down on us. But at least it will be sunnier!
...Two observations: 1) its not really thick fog is it? 2) Not obviously representative of Huddersfield!
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This is rather niceOriginally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
Observer today) and The i Newspaper yesterday both have the same picture by Danny Lawson (PA) purporting to demonstrate thick fog in Huddersfield...
...Two observations: 1) its not really thick fog is it? 2) Not obviously representative of Huddersfield!
When I lived in Cheltenham as a child this kind of view was pretty common once you got up the hill at the back of our house, or when I was a bit older and out on my bike. There was something very satisfying about being up in the sunshine looking down on the blanket below.Comment
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That's more like it ooo...Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
This is rather nice
When I lived in Cheltenham as a child this kind of view was pretty common once you got up the hill at the back of our house, or when I was a bit older and out on my bike. There was something very satisfying about being up in the sunshine looking down on the blanket below.
...similar to the view of Ryedale/Vale of Pickering with North York Moors rising out of the mist on Saturday.Comment
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What a surprise. Woke up to brilliant sunshine(thought I'd left a light on somewhere) blue sky and a touch of frost - none of which featured on either Met or Beeb forecast. It's clouding over now, and the strong breeze(aka wind) is knocking the temperature right down, but never mind, my circadian rhythms have got their fix.Comment
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