Stormy Weather II

[oddoneout]

A reasonably pleasant November day today with breaking stratocumulus and gentle NW winds - temperatures normal, maxing out at around 11C, as will be the case tomorrow and Saturday.

It looks now as if with the possible exception of Dartmoor and Exmoor we here in the SE are out of the picture for any snow next week - most likely victims being any north-facing coasts, Scotland and N Ireland, and northern hills in general, but all will depend on the pace and timing of developments from Tuesday as a deepening low, with trailing fronts previously expected to traverse N France, crosses the middle of the country. With a return to more "zonal" conditions the following weekend temperatures should lift, but still remain on the cold side for late November.

Disappointment here as no sun(although the lighter quality of the grey cloud did give an indication of its presence) and the scraps of blue sky midday were completely inadequate to cover the proverbial Dutchman's modesty. It was chilly as well.

[Old Grumpy]

Sunshine here this morning, but clouded over later in the afternoon.

Had to look up the dutchman's modesty bit though...


...my grandmother used to refer to there being "enough blue sky to patch a pair of sailor's pants" - which I guess amounts to the same thing.

[Serial_Apologist]

Disappointment here as no sun(although the lighter quality of the grey cloud did give an indication of its presence) and the scraps of blue sky midday were completely inadequate to cover the proverbial Dutchman's modesty. It was chilly as well.

It was actually colder yesterday than I stated yesterday - I must've been too hasty re-adjusting my max/min thermometer. I had thought it seemed colder than 11C, and was wondering if ageing was affecting my bodily responses to heat and cold! Today was back up to 11C, the average, again - I doubt we'll be seeing that again for a while!

[Serial_Apologist]

Had to look up the dutchman's modesty bit though...

Hollandaise sauce?

[vinteuil]

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... according to yr.no, here in London tonight between 02:00 and 03:00 hrs as the wind veers from south-west, west, to northerly the temperature will drop within that hour from 11 ° to 5 ° C. Then later on Tuesday down to 3 ° and 0 °. Time for the bed-socks...

[Serial_Apologist]

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... according to yr.no, here in London tonight between 02:00 and 03:00 hrs as the wind veers from south-west, west, to northerly the temperature will drop within that hour from 11 ° to 5 ° C. Then later on Tuesday down to 3 ° and 0 °.

That would be thought a small drop in temperature in some parts of the world. My own experience was of a cold front transition in Zurich in April of 1968. The day had seen temperatures reaching 25 Celsius. As the evening wore on, people in t-shirts sitting outside taverns enjoying the still warm but now rising Sirocco winds were unaware of what was to come within a few hours, announced as a continuous line of cumulonimbus with lightning flickering along its entire length bore down from the north west, obscuring an angry, deep red sunset. The next morning one awoke to lift the venetian blind on a blizzard scene, with snow 30 centimeters deep and an air temperature of minus 2 celsius. I have not had experience of a temperature drop of comparable proportions since.

Time for the bed-socks...

My new electric blanket is proving its worth. Bought a fortnight ago at Argos. I had asked for their cheapest model, but it was out of stock, so I went for the next least expensive one going for £45. On paying I found that they had charged me the £35 price of the one I had initially requested. Now, THAT I call good customer service.

[Petrushka]

That would be thought a small drop in temperature in some parts of the world. My own experience was of a cold front transition in Zurich in April of 1968. The day had seen temperatures reaching 25 Celsius. As the evening wore on, people in t-shirts sitting outside taverns enjoying the still warm but now rising Sirocco winds were unaware of what was to come within a few hours, announced as a continuous line of cumulonimbus with lightning flickering along its entire length bore down from the north west, obscuring an angry, deep red sunset. The next morning one awoke to lift the venetian blind on a blizzard scene, with snow 30 centimeters deep and an air temperature of minus 2 celsius. I have not had experience of a temperature drop of comparable proportions since.

This reminds me of a similar extreme temperature drop that I experienced in June 1986. I was in Munich and took a tour to view the remains of Hitler's Eagle's Nest at Berchtesgaden. The temperature down below was around 30°C but after the short bus ride to the top of the Bavarian Alps it was some way below freezing with snow and ice aplenty. There was also a stern notice warning against staying there should a thunderstorm be in progress. No exaggeration, it was bitterly cold! However, the view was unforgettably spectacular.

[oddoneout]

Tuesday looks like a good day to catch up on various indoor tasks - wet, windy and perishing cold. If things do clear a bit at midday, as forecast, then a short walk may be in order, but otherwise exercise will have to wait. Knee problems are making walking rather unpleasant as it is, adding extra weather-related discomfort I can do without.

[Petrushka]

I can't remember snow falling this early in November for very many years. There was a bitterly cold Bonfire Night one year (1968, I think) but no snow.

We are on low ground here so it's even more surprising to see the snow settling this evening.

[Serial_Apologist]

I can't remember snow falling this early in November for very many years. There was a bitterly cold Bonfire Night one year (1968, I think) but no snow.

We are on low ground here so it's even more surprising to see the snow settling this evening.

I do remember a memorably early snowfall in October not long after moving here. It might have been 2009. Heavy rain falling from a southward-moving cold front as I entered the Festival Hall for an evening concert had turned to moderate snow on emerging. I got the last train from Victoria and when it arrived at Sydenham Hill, six minutes' walk from my pad, snow was settling on grass and vehicle tops at a temperature just a fraction above freezing point. I don't recall a single white Christmas during childhood - even during the infamous '62-'63 winter the first snow did not fall in London until Boxing Day. It used to be folklore when I was a child that snow rarely came to the south of the country until February - apocryphal maybe, but at least we knew we would get snow at some point every winter. The earliest I remember snow in November was at school at the start of the 1960s, when following a very cold frosty night in the wake of a brief spell of northerlies, snow which settled before turning to rain began falling from an approaching warm front during one morning.

[oddoneout]

I can't remember snow falling this early in November for very many years. There was a bitterly cold Bonfire Night one year (1968, I think) but no snow.

We are on low ground here so it's even more surprising to see the snow settling this evening.

There was sleet forecast for late evening, but it was a surprise when doing the final locking up before bed to see cars and roofs with a respectable white covering at 11-30pm, and the air full of dandruff which was adding to it. There are still remnants now, although the change to light rain is dispersing it. At least the freezing temperatures that were also forecast didn't happen - that would have made for a really unpleasant start to the day for those needing to travel.

[Petrushka]

I do remember a memorably early snowfall in October not long after moving here. It might have been 2009. Heavy rain falling from a southward-moving cold front as I entered the Festival Hall for an evening concert had turned to moderate snow on emerging. I got the last train from Victoria and when it arrived at Sydenham Hill, six minutes' walk from my pad, snow was settling on grass and vehicle tops at a temperature just a fraction above freezing point. I don't recall a single white Christmas during childhood - even during the infamous '62-'63 winter the first snow did not fall in London until Boxing Day. It used to be folklore when I was a child that snow rarely came to the south of the country until February - apocryphal maybe, but at least we knew we would get snow at some point every winter. The earliest I remember snow in November was at school at the start of the 1960s, when following a very cold frosty night in the wake of a brief spell of northerlies, snow which settled before turning to rain began falling from an approaching warm front during one morning.

The earliest November snowfall I can recall was as recent as 2010 when it fell on November 27. A savage cold spell followed in early December.

White Christmasses i recall from my early teenage years are 1968 and 1970, then later in 2004.

The infamous winters of 1947 and 1963 did not have serious snowfall until January/February time. I heard many stories from my mother about 1947 and the photographs I've seen are amazing. I can remember the 1963 winter, just about.

Currently, the sky is looking an ominous slate grey and further snowfall appears to be very likely.

[Old Grumpy]

Pleasantly surprised to find NO snow here (Ryedale/Hambleton) this morning - none on the Eastern Dales either judging by the view from Sutton bank.

Bit of frost on the windscreen, that's all.

[Nick Armstrong]

Pleasantly surprised to find NO snow here (Ryedale/Hambleton) this morning -

The boys & girls arriving hoping to do some testing at Silverstone in Northants. this morning weren’t so lucky…

[Old Grumpy]

And there and there:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cdxvdyzv5nvt?post=asset%3A68943a91-8847-4445-ab28-af942ba3089c#post

Not over impressed by Sheffield's snow though!