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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37812

    Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
    ....what with all this US college fraternity stuff - Tau Kappa Epsilon​ - and such like stuff...(of which Lest Heat-Moon was member...
    Any relation to Alpha Mo?

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    • eighthobstruction
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      • Nov 2010
      • 6447

      ...
      bong ching

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      • Joseph K
        Banned
        • Oct 2017
        • 7765

        Much like yesterday - still, with intermittent sun while out on my walk this morning turning sunnier in the afternoon.

        So far this week is turning out better than the forecast had forecast...

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        • oddoneout
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          • Nov 2015
          • 9271

          Very foggy this morning as forecast, but it cleared before 10 am with the sun appearing soon after to leave a good autumn day - dry, sunny and not too chilly except in the shade where the lingering dampness was uncomfortable. Interestingly the figures from the Met Office recording station paint a very different picture - overcast virtually all day with periodic showers, but it's not that far away. Happy to have had our version as Wednesday is volunteer gardening day, and one of the tasks was a much delayed start on tackling a badly overgrown pond, which would have been miserable if it was raining - we got quite wet enough as it was!

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          • vinteuil
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 12928

            ... a friend writes : "For some reason when I use the BBC on my phone to check the weather forecast, the site defaults to Irish.

            When I ask it to translate into English, I get rather melancholy descriptions such as:
            'Light rain and tear stains'
            'Sunny with periods of mourning'... "
            .​

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            • oddoneout
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              • Nov 2015
              • 9271

              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
              ... a friend writes : "For some reason when I use the BBC on my phone to check the weather forecast, the site defaults to Irish.

              When I ask it to translate into English, I get rather melancholy descriptions such as:
              'Light rain and tear stains'
              'Sunny with periods of mourning'... "
              .​
              Melancholy but very apt.
              Some years ago I had the foreign language default, only it was to Welsh . When I tried to find out why it was happening I was met with a level of unhelpfulness, and blame apportioned to me for not using settings correctly( I had, quite some time previously, including for location, but they had been over-ridden, and re-setting only lasted for an individual session), such that my increasing inclination towards the Met Office version became a decision to ignore the BBC site.
              I wonder if the translations would have been equally poetic? Wouldn't have changed my decision to switch though.

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              • DracoM
                Host
                • Mar 2007
                • 12986

                Utter autumnal filth up here - thick rain, chilly NE breeze, no cloud breaks, and England committing cricket suicide in India...........blimey!

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                • eighthobstruction
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6447

                  Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                  Utter autumnal filth up here - thick rain, chilly NE breeze, no cloud breaks, and England committing cricket suicide in India...........blimey!
                  ....just grey mizzle here....dimsy...
                  bong ching

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                  • Old Grumpy
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                    • Jan 2011
                    • 3643

                    Originally posted by oddoneout View Post

                    Melancholy but very apt.
                    Some years ago I had the foreign language default, only it was to Welsh . When I tried to find out why it was happening I was met with a level of unhelpfulness, and blame apportioned to me for not using settings correctly( I had, quite some time previously, including for location, but they had been over-ridden, and re-setting only lasted for an individual session), such that my increasing inclination towards the Met Office version became a decision to ignore the BBC site.
                    I wonder if the translations would have been equally poetic? Wouldn't have changed my decision to switch though.
                    As already mentioned (I think) somewhere I switched to Met Office from BBC when the Beeb decided to go with some foreign outfit (MeteoGroup) for their broadcast forecasts.

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                    • Serial_Apologist
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37812

                      Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post

                      As already mentioned (I think) somewhere I switched to Met Office from BBC when the Beeb decided to go with some foreign outfit (MeteoGroup) for their broadcast forecasts.
                      OG, I give you my for your . I tend to check both sources when I have time, or when it's a matter of pressing importance.

                      All of this morning's anvil cloud debris has now cleared here in the south, allowing the sun to trigger convection, and some telltale cumulonimbus clouds which have given thunder in the vicinity of Chichester and to the north of Brighton are now encroaching this way from the south coast. It will be interesting to see if they reach London in the next hour. The maximum temperature will in any case be down on yesterday's exceptionally mild 16C. Hopefully it will be dry enough tomorrow morning to make it over to E Dulwich for my major weekly shop at the large Sainsbury's!.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37812

                        Good discussion on increasing blocked weather patterns (like the one we're getting right now) over on the UKWW site I visit regularly. The language used includes some technical jargon but should mostly be understandable (if it is by me!!):

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                        • Old Grumpy
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                          • Jan 2011
                          • 3643

                          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

                          OG, I give you my for your . I tend to check both sources when I have time, or when it's a matter of pressing.
                          Fair enough, S_A. My was not for the forecasting, but for the BBC's ditching of the Met Office as provider.
                          Last edited by Old Grumpy; 27-10-23, 15:41.

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                          • Joseph K
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 7765

                            Not unpleasant weather for walking - hardly any wind and pretty mild.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37812

                              Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post

                              Fair enough, S_A. My was not for the forecasting, but for the BBC's ditching of thre Met Office as provider.
                              Oh I gathered that.

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                              • Serial_Apologist
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37812

                                Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                                Not unpleasant weather for walking - hardly any wind and pretty mild.
                                The expected shower turned into a thunderstorm by the time it passed over Woodford in NE London. In another month's time in this sort of unstable weather set-up, lower air temperatures would prevent the necessary convection for that to happen inland, away from coastal situations where showers have been generated over relatively warmer sea surfaces. Inland thunder can otherwise occur only under conditions of "forcing", i.e a convergence feature such as a cold front or surface trough line where increasing winds push in, or upward motion (orographic uplift) where winds ram into mountains or high cliffs and are forced upwards. So-called "thunder snow", which has been a topic of conversation of recent years, occurs where cold fronts introduce air of sufficiently low temperature to maintain precipitation as snow rather than melting into rain at low levels, often accompanied by a sharp veer in wind direction. it is noticeable in British winters that showers formed over the sea that make it any distance inland tend to raise near-surface temperatures as they cross sometimes frosty surfaces - one of our causes of so-called "black ice". It is of course worth mentioning that most of our precipitation starts off as snow and then melts on its way down.

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