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  • Tony Halstead
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1717

    Originally posted by Flay View Post
    Indeed, I could have dined out on it in my amateur circles.
    Please, please could we proscribe this stupid and 'psychologically loaded word' 'amateur'?
    One of the greatest - maybe THE greatest British conductor of the last 100 years - was , in truth, an amateur: Beecham.
    One of the finest performances of Stravinsky's 'The Rite of Spring' that I ever heard was that of the Hallé orchestra about 50 years ago conducted by the construction engineer/ scientist Herman Lindars, (whose firm largely built the Jodrell Bank radio telescope) and who, although technically an 'amateur'musican, conducted at a totally professional level.

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    • Flay
      Full Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 5795

      Originally posted by Tony View Post
      Please could we proscribe this stupid and 'psychologically loaded word' 'amateur'?
      Point taken....

      ...but you haven't heard me play!
      Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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      • Hornspieler
        Late Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 1847

        Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
        I confess that I was delighted to believe the story that the American Sentry who shot Anton Webern was a former member of the New York Philharmonic Orchestra and knew perfectly well who he was shooting at.

        HS
        The operative word in the above quote is was

        I would have been 12 or 13 years old at the time, but it has taken me more than seventy more years to admit to my teenage reaction.

        Sorry if I caused offence to anyone.

        HS

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          Originally posted by Tony View Post
          Please, please could we proscribe this stupid and 'psychologically loaded word' 'amateur'?
          One of the greatest - maybe THE greatest British conductor of the last 100 years - was , in truth, an amateur: Beecham.
          One of the finest performances of Stravinsky's 'The Rite of Spring' that I ever heard was that of the Hallé orchestra about 50 years ago conducted by the construction engineer/ scientist Herman Lindars, (whose firm largely built the Jodrell Bank radio telescope) and who, although technically an 'amateur'musican, conducted at a totally professional level.
          I'd certainly agree that using "amateur" as a pejorative should be proscribed, Tony - but the word really means "one who loves". I have never been ashamed to call myself an amateur Musician, and would feel at a loss if I were forbidden to continue to do so.

          In case that's off-topic, let's call it a "confession" - if not a shameful one!
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • Barbirollians
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 11785

            Barbirolli also championed Delius and Sargent too .

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 20576

              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
              Barbirolli also championed Delius and Sargent too .

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              • MrGongGong
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 18357

                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                I don't really like Richard Strauss but my psychologist told me my condition is really rare and worthy of deeper study

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20576




                  You are very naughty, MrGG - fake news.

                  Or fake quotation at least.

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                  • MrGongGong
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post



                    You are very naughty, MrGG - fake news.

                    Or fake quotation at least.

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                    • cloughie
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22215

                      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                      Barbirolli also championed Delius and Sargent too .
                      Indeed they did and very well, and with great recordings to show, but Beecham did it first!
                      Last edited by cloughie; 13-05-17, 20:14.

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26575

                        The Korngold is by a massive margin my favourite violin concerto (followed at a distance by the Barber; and the Elgar can still do it for me). The Brahms, Beethoven, Sibelius etc lost their interest for me years ago. The Mozart violin concertos I never found interesting. But I return to the Korngold every time with pleasure, and love hearing different interpretations. (The performance by Ilya Gringolts and the Copenhagen Phil under Julien Salemkou, featured on Record Review at the weekend, brought this home to me).


                        It's a COMPLETELY different story with piano concertos....
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • Richard Barrett
                          Guest
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 6259

                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          The Korngold is by a massive margin my favourite violin concerto (followed at a distance by the Barber...)
                          Blimey, Caliban, I've been at performances of both of those in the past year and found them both absolutely ghastly!

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26575

                            Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                            Blimey, Caliban, I've been at performances of both of those in the past year and found them both absolutely ghastly!
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • vinteuil
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12975

                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              The Korngold is by a massive margin my favourite violin concerto
                              ... o deary me

                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              followed at a distance by the Barber.
                              ... o dear o dear o dear


                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              and the Elgar can still do it for me

                              Nope. There is no chance for this chap.

                              Nurse!

                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              The Mozart violin concertos I never found interesting. ....


                              Nurse!! I say, NURSE!!!!








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                              Last edited by vinteuil; 16-05-17, 12:48.

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20576

                                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                                ... o deary me



                                ... o dear o dear o dear





                                Nope. There is no chance for this chap.

                                Nurse!





                                Nurse!! I say, NURSE!!!!








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                                Vints, what DO you like?

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