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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37877

    #61
    Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
    You want to be careful with that. Webern himself used to whistle his own tunes when he went out for his evening walk and look what happened to him.
    But he was also smoking a cigar - which you'd never expect to find teamsaint doing.

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    • teamsaint
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 25235

      #62
      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
      But he was also smoking a cigar - which you'd never expect to find teamsaint doing.
      I thought it was a humble ciggie,more my style too.
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • Hornspieler
        Late Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 1847

        #63
        Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
        You want to be careful with that. Webern himself used to whistle his own tunes when he went out for his evening walk and look what happened to him.
        I confess that I was delighted to believe the story that the American Sentry who shot Anton Webern was a former member of the New York Philharmonic Orchestra and knew perfectly well who he was shooting at.

        HS

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        • Beef Oven!
          Ex-member
          • Sep 2013
          • 18147

          #64
          Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
          I confess that I was delighted to believe the story that the American Sentry who shot Anton Webern was a former member of the New York Philharmonic Orchestra and knew perfectly well who he was shooting at.

          HS
          That is a disgraceful comment.

          And in post #1283 on the "Absent friends & missing persons" thread, you said you would not be commenting on people’s posts anymore.

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          • ahinton
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 16123

            #65
            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            I whistle Weberns music a lot.
            Well , I tell people it's Webern ( obviously I don't) ,but it sounds like what Webern might sound like whistled.

            Note: I like Webern. and whistling........

            As Stephen Sondheim tells us, Anyone can whistle. Even Webern.

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            • ahinton
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 16123

              #66
              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
              That is a disgraceful comment.
              Indeed so, but it was a confession, of which some might indeed involve disgraceful comments.

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              • Beef Oven!
                Ex-member
                • Sep 2013
                • 18147

                #67
                Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                Indeed so, but it was a confession, of which some might indeed involve disgraceful comments.
                The killing of Anton Webern has to be one of the most tragic incidents in music history. Robbed of one of the greatest composer to have ever put pen to paper. Some seventy one years later, the odd bit of humour is to be expected and is acceptable. But to express delight in the killing of this brilliant man is appalling.

                Ok, we music fans can be rather sensitive about those we revere, but none the less ......

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                • Richard Barrett
                  Guest
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 6259

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                  to express delight in the killing of this brilliant man is appalling.
                  Well, Webern is music for people who've outgrown the kind of puerile put-down that good old "Sir Tommy" is so celebrated for.

                  As for me, as I get older I appreciate Webern more and more. Looking forward very much to the op.1 Passacaglia tomorrow evening with the home team (plus Berg violin concerto and Brahms 4).

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                  • cloughie
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 22215

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                    I agree with Bbm, I tghink.

                    I was once asked by a performer why there seemed to be a quote from the Carpenters' "Close to You" in a certain work.
                    I hope your response was "why not? It's a damned good tune!"

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                    • ahinton
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 16123

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                      The killing of Anton Webern has to be one of the most tragic incidents in music history. Robbed of one of the greatest composer to have ever put pen to paper. Some seventy one years later, the odd bit of humour is to be expected and is acceptable. But to express delight in the killing of this brilliant man is appalling.

                      Ok, we music fans can be rather sensitive about those we revere, but none the less ......
                      Can't agree more (except that "one of the greatest" might be over-egging it, for me, at least)...

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                      • Beef Oven!
                        Ex-member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 18147

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                        Well, Webern is music for people who've outgrown the kind of puerile put-down that good old "Sir Tommy" is so celebrated for.

                        As for me, as I get older I appreciate Webern more and more. Looking forward very much to the op.1 Passacaglia tomorrow evening with the home team (plus Berg violin concerto and Brahms 4).

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                        • cloughie
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22215

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                          I don't know whether Beecham ever composed anything of note.
                          I don't know if Eric Fenby produced very much original work.
                          I'm not sure about Beecham's composition but he did some interesting arrangements of other's music on which no doubt the HIPPies on these boards frown over, as they may also over his interpretations of metronome markings and composers' intentions! Eric would have found a laptop and Sibelius very handy when working with Delius. I often think it a Fenby would be great to have as a neighbour to write down my musical ideas!

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                          • Ferretfancy
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3487

                            #73
                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                            I'm not sure about Beecham's composition but he did some interesting arrangements of other's music on which no doubt the HIPPies on these boards frown over, as they may also over his interpretations of metronome markings and composers' intentions! Eric would have found a laptop and Sibelius very handy when working with Delius. I often think it a Fenby would be great to have as a neighbour to write down my musical ideas!
                            Beecham may not have been a regular composer but he was probably too busy founding two orchestras that are still with us today, not to mention injecting a little vigour into what at the time was a moribund operatic scene and funding so much with his own money.

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                            • Lat-Literal
                              Guest
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 6983

                              #74
                              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                              I'm not sure about Beecham's composition but he did some interesting arrangements of other's music on which no doubt the HIPPies on these boards frown over, as they may also over his interpretations of metronome markings and composers' intentions! Eric would have found a laptop and Sibelius very handy when working with Delius. I often think it a Fenby would be great to have as a neighbour to write down my musical ideas!
                              Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
                              Beecham may not have been a regular composer but he was probably too busy founding two orchestras that are still with us today, not to mention injecting a little vigour into what at the time was a moribund operatic scene and funding so much with his own money.
                              Thank you for your comments.

                              I like Beecham.

                              Let me re-phrase my question.

                              Are there any Beecham compositions?

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                              • cloughie
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 22215

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                                Thank you for your comments.

                                I like Beecham.

                                Let me re-phrase my question.

                                Are there any Beecham compositions?
                                I think the nearest he got to composition were his Ballet Suites based aound Handel's music - the Great Elopement, Gods go a begging and Love in Bath and Gretry's Zemire et Azor. Perhaps someone could revive it with the album title Beecham's Big Band Baroque!

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