I’m not renewing my TV licence - any pitfalls?

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  • aeolium
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3992

    #76
    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
    ... a curious moral argument.
    Yes, rather like the one used by multinational organizations who justify their relatively miniscule tax contributions on the basis that they are paying all the taxes they are legally required to (by using shell companies, etc) while still benefiting from all the services and public goods, like an educated workforce, that taxes provide.

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    • vinteuil
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12936

      #77
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      ... if I get something for nothing by 'liberating' a bar of chocolate costing 50p from Tescos, it is no argument in my defence that Tescos is well funded and that my getting something for nothing won't signify.

      If we benefit from radio 3, I think it appropriate that we should be concerned with its funding.

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20572

        #78
        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
        It’s not a moral argument. What have morals got to do with this?

        You say for BBC radio to continue, it must be funded (implying some kind of risk) and I’m pointing out that it is well-funded and will continue to be funded. What is your concern?
        I think there is a moral argument, but the solution has effectively been put beyond your control, because the authorities, in their wisdom, have abolished the radio-only licence. I dare you'd have been willing to pay that, but they say they don't want it.

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        • Beef Oven!
          Ex-member
          • Sep 2013
          • 18147

          #79
          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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          ... if I get something for nothing by 'liberating' a bar of chocolate costing 50p from Tescos, it is no argument in my defence that Tescos is well funded and that my getting something for nothing won't signify.
          I don’t watch telly anymore, so how will I be getting something for nothing?

          If we benefit from radio 3, I think it appropriate that we should be concerned with its funding.
          But the funding’s there. What is it I’m supposed to be concerned about?

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          • vinteuil
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 12936

            #80
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            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
            But the funding’s there. What is it I’m supposed to be concerned about?
            ... where, beefoven, do you think radio 3 gets its funding from?

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              #81
              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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              ... where, beefoven, do you think radio 3 gets its funding from?
              From the £4 billion it charges the people who watch telly.

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              • vinteuil
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12936

                #82
                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                From the £4 billion it charges the people who watch telly.
                ... to which you do not propose to contribute, altho' you wish to benefit from what is provided.

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                • Beef Oven!
                  Ex-member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  #83
                  Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                  ... to which you do not propose to contribute, altho' you wish to benefit from what is provided.
                  It’s their funding model, not mine - take it up with them!

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                  • Beef Oven!
                    Ex-member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 18147

                    #84
                    Update:

                    I've contacted by 'phone TV Licensing and registered my address as one that does not use a TV. The woman explained that when someone from their organisation is in my area, they’ll visit my home to check that what I’m saying is correct (that I don’t watch TV). I asked how on Earth will he know whether or not I use my TV? She didn’t really give an answer to that, so I explained that it’s not plugged in and the areal is not connected; but I won’t be putting it in the loft or into storage, it will stay in my living room until I get rid of it by giving it to a friend or family member, or flogging it. She seemed ok with that.

                    All seems a bit silly, but I guess with £4 billion at stake, it’s worth the effort on their part.
                    Last edited by Beef Oven!; 26-04-17, 15:42. Reason: changed 'have an answer' to 'give an answer'

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                    • Beef Oven!
                      Ex-member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      ..............the authorities, in their wisdom, have abolished the radio-only licence. I dare you'd have been willing to pay that, but they say they don't want it.
                      If one had to buy a licence to listen to the radio, I’d buy one, because I listen to the radio. It’s all really quite straight forward.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37814

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                        If one had to buy a licence to listen to the radio, I’d buy one, because I listen to the radio. It’s all really quite straight forward.
                        Would you leave a dangerous obstruction in the street, rather than remove it if you were able to, on account of the council's responsibility for so doing, and their inefficiency for not carrying out the task?

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                        • Beef Oven!
                          Ex-member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 18147

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                          Would you leave a dangerous obstruction in the street, rather than remove it if you were able to, on account of the council's responsibility for so doing, and their inefficiency for not carrying out the task?
                          If I were able to safely and legally move it, I’d move it. If I couldn’t move it, I’d raise the alarm. Then I’d go about my day as normal.

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                          • Lat-Literal
                            Guest
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 6983

                            #88
                            "Federal organization that includes NPR and PBS urges Congress to fight Trump's proposal to eliminate funding":

                            16 March 2017



                            Perhaps threads like these help to test what American style abomination could or could not be included with support in a British election manifesto?

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                            • Beef Oven!
                              Ex-member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              Would you leave a dangerous obstruction in the street, rather than remove it if you were able to, on account of the council's responsibility for so doing, and their inefficiency for not carrying out the task?
                              Thinking about your question and what you’re driving at, you’re not thinking that I would dump my TV on the pavement, causing a hazard to people walking by, are you?

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                              • P. G. Tipps
                                Full Member
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 2978

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                                I didn't realise you believed in evidence-based truth.
                                Well, any quite extraordinary belated realisation on your part is hardly a matter for the rest of us, S_A ...

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