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  • LHC
    Full Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1556

    It’s interesting that the teams from Group F, the so called Group of Death, have all been knocked out before the quarter finals. Rather than preparing them for the battles to come, it seems the intensity of their group games exhausted them.
    "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
    Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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    • jayne lee wilson
      Banned
      • Jul 2011
      • 10711

      Originally posted by Edgy 2 View Post
      He may now fill his boots in the next three (possible) games and win the golden one.
      In dreamland here, what a result
      And what an astounding atmosphere burning out of the screen from Wembley...!
      The last time I experienced anything quite so intense was the Liverpool - Barca CL semi in 2019....

      ***
      Beautifully created first goal for Ukraine, one side of the park to the other with outside of the foot much in evidence....that little dink across the area was magical........ they can play a bit, don't worry...

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      • teamsaint
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 25205

        Originally posted by LHC View Post
        It’s interesting that the teams from Group F, the so called Group of Death, have all been knocked out before the quarter finals. Rather than preparing them for the battles to come, it seems the intensity of their group games exhausted them.
        Yep, there must be a good slice of that.
        There is definitely a learning process in tournament football, even if Greece didn't bother going through it. I think England probably learned a lot from the WC campaign.

        And Kane could have turned the corner just when we really need him to.
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • jayne lee wilson
          Banned
          • Jul 2011
          • 10711

          Amazing end-to-end stuff at Hampden.....very unpredictable.... could be another long night....

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          • Dave2002
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 18013

            It is a long night - and about to go to penalties ....

            No - my machine crashed - and Ukraine scored in stoppage time - looks as though it's going to be over now ....
            Last edited by Dave2002; 30-06-21, 12:15. Reason: edits failed before - don't know why - grrr

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            • Edgy 2
              Guest
              • Jan 2019
              • 2035

              Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
              It is a long night - and about to go to penaltied ....


              No - my machined crashed - and Ukraine scored in stoppage time - looks as though it's going to be over now ....
              It is now
              “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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              • DracoM
                Host
                • Mar 2007
                • 12965

                Never a red card! Poor Sweden.

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                • EnemyoftheStoat
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1132

                  Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                  Never a red card! Poor Sweden.
                  Ah, the VAR video of the tackle suggests the Ukraine player was lucky to still have a career after that tackle, let alone a tournament.

                  Definitely a red. But Sweden were unlucky, hitting bar and post several times as well as an obstinate keeper.
                  Last edited by EnemyoftheStoat; 30-06-21, 07:42.

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                  • Sir Velo
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                    • Oct 2012
                    • 3225

                    Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                    YES YES YES! WE'VE DONE IT, WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE AND DONE IT!

                    Living every kick, cheering every move with the Wembley crowd here! The team are applauding the crowd and no wonder...I guess we should all applaud Mr. Southgate too.
                    Oh Happy Day....enjoy the moment, friends!

                    But you often need the luck... the Müller miss was that crucial piece of luck....
                    What a wonderful generosity of spirit from Jurgen Klinsmann now...

                    I really need a slow, quiet walk soon.... back later to see our next potential opponents...in a tournament like this, you wouldn't want to miss a single game, would you?
                    I hate to be a naysayer, but it will all end in tears!

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20570

                      Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                      I hate to be a naysayer, but it will all end in tears!
                      Only one team can win the tournament. There’s no shame in being beaten by a better team (especially Belgium).

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                      • jayne lee wilson
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 10711

                        Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                        I hate to be a naysayer, but it will all end in tears!
                        There is no "will" or "won't" in football or any other sport; only "might", "could" or sometimes "should" (Yoda might not have approved of this formulation )

                        But that's why we watch and follow, year after year; the hope against the despair.....the unpredictability, the possibility....yesterday was such a high because historical expectation and association were finally overturned, and in such an atmosphere...!

                        You could say that France should have beaten La Suisse; Netherlands should have beaten the Czechs; but look what happened...

                        Don't know what to do with myself today, after two remarkable days, two matches a day, as the high comes down.... I do have tasks and errands which I should get on with, but...
                        Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 30-06-21, 13:10.

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                        • Serial_Apologist
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37648

                          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                          There is no "will" or "won't" in football or any other sport; only "might", "could" or sometimes "should" (Yoda might not have approved of this formulation )

                          But that's why we watch and follow, year after year; the hope against the despair.....the unpredictability, the possibility....yesterday was such a high because historical expectation and association were finally overturned, and in such an atmosphere...!

                          You could say that France should have beaten La Suisse; Netherlands should have beaten the Czechs; but look what happened...

                          Don't know what to do with myself today, after two remarkable days, two matches a day, as the high comes down.... I do have tasks and errands which I should get on with, but...
                          Always remember: there is no goal. All we finally need is to be centreing: not half, not back, not going forward, and not on a wing and a prayer.

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                          • vinteuil
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12805

                            Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                            yes yes yes! WE'VE done it
                            ... what I always find weird is this notion that WE have done it. As far as I could see, it was eleven or so men running after a ball on a football pitch wot done it

                            I think Mitchell & Webb had a good sketch


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                            • teamsaint
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25205

                              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                              ... what I always find weird is this notion that WE have done it. As far as I could see, it was eleven or so men running after a ball on a football pitch wot done it

                              I think Mitchell & Webb had a good sketch


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                              Like most elite activity, it is more than the just the main characters, though of course without them it can't happen.

                              Before Jayne says it, Liverpool with the Kop. Endless trophies. Without the Kop...a Man City style smattering of them.

                              United . With the Stretford End......The theatre of Dreams. Without.....another big cold football stadium with an occasional day in the sun.

                              It is in part about perceived identity. The place and the people inform the players. I heard Lee Dixon ( top class Arsenal player) recently saying how Highbury in equal measure intimidated and inspired him. And it is the people that made it that way. Arsenal with that odd mix of North London "aristocracy", the Irish, the home counties refugees.
                              It's all part of a whole.

                              To sum up...it's the " Croatia " factor.
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                              • vinteuil
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12805

                                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post

                                It is in part about perceived identity.
                                ... yep, that's what I don't get.

                                Like all those people 'identifying with' Princess Diana after her death. It's not real

                                ( .. "O it's real for me!" - = "It's my truth" )



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