A funny thing happened on the way to the Forum

[Serial_Apologist]

Yes, many an accident, and nearly an accident in those days....children left in car - brake handle depressed....off they go....
I was in an Army armoured car (Saracen I think) where kids were let to clamber in, on a slope - kid slips the brake off - luckily a really quick and assertive soldier ploughed through kids and pulled it back on....probably saved10 or so crushings....We went to a lot of Military Tatoos and such like....in that KR RVW doc Tank Museum at Bulford (is it?) instantly made me well up with memories....

Tanks for the memories. Ella sang about that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHhLXvqgqYM

[kernelbogey]

There's a firm in Winchester that organises events where you can drive a tank!

https://www.tank-driving.com

[LHC]

The library had that a while back. It was an enjoyable enough read but even I could see that it wasn't as factually accurate as it should have been and it was rather bitty. The Waterstone's blurb sort of indicates that be saying . The Defender didn't come in until mid 80s, so although it may have been a Land Rover that was the first vehicle so many saw it wasn't the Defender, it would have been the older versions such as my father owned, that did such sterling service in places such as Africa.

I believe the best selling car across Africa by some distance is the Toyota Hilux and has been for several decades. Its valued for being rugged and very reliable and also cheaper than the Defender. I suspect that the statement about the Defender being the first car seen by half the world's population is more likely to be true about the Hilux, especially as it has been around for 20 years more than the Defender.

[oddoneout]

I believe the best selling car across Africa by some distance is the Toyota Hilux and has been for several decades. Its valued for being rugged and very reliable and also cheaper than the Defender. I suspect that the statement about the Defender being the first car seen by half the world's population is more likely to be true about the Hilux, especially as it has been around for 20 years more than the Defender.

The fact that Toyota started manufacturing in S Africa in the 60s had a lot to do with that presumably.

[LHC]

The fact that Toyota started manufacturing in S Africa in the 60s had a lot to do with that presumably.

Quite possibly, although I think its reputation for never breaking down and managing to cope with any sort of terrain helps as well.

[kernelbogey]

I occasionally buy a big bag of crisps. The brand I prefer now has a large slogan on the front saying 'Now made with 25% recycled plastic'. They still taste the same, though.

[oddoneout]

I occasionally buy a big bag of crisps. The brand I prefer now has a large slogan on the front saying 'Now made with 25% recycled plastic'. They still taste the same, though.

Those microplastics get everywhere you know.

[french frank]

Those microplastics get everywhere you know.

I sent for the Guardian's 'Detox your kitchen' newsletter but I, yea, e'en I, quailed at the purchasing changes it advocated.

[LMcD]

Those microplastics get everywhere you know.

Has 25% of the plastic been completely recycled, or has all of it been 25% recycled?