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  • Beef Oven!
    Ex-member
    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    #16
    Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
    England is even an even greater place for foreigners to visit due to the collapse of our currency againt Euro and Dollar
    Collapse of the pound? The pound hasn’t collapsed.

    And the rest of the UK uses the pound - the UK isn’t just ‘England’ (I wish people wouldn’t do that)

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    • Beef Oven!
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      • Sep 2013
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      #17
      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      Apart from Nigel Farage, you mean?
      Oi! Don’t pick on Nigel - if it wasn’t for him, we wouldn’t even have had a referendum (you don’t think it was Cameron who gave us this opportunity, do you?).

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      • teamsaint
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        • Nov 2010
        • 25231

        #18
        net migration of 300k PA suggests that this is still an attractive country to live and work in, regardless of one's views on how the future should be.
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        • Beef Oven!
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          • Sep 2013
          • 18147

          #19
          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
          net migration of 300k PA suggests that this is still an attractive country to live and work in, regardless of one's views on how the future should be.
          People are falling over themselves to come here. A huge compliment to our way of life. And I reckon it’ll just keep getting better.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #20
            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
            People are falling over themselves to come here. A huge complicate to our way of life. And I reckon it’ll just keep getting better.
            Your Freudian slip is showing.

            EDIT - Ah! I see you don't know what I'm going on about!
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            • Beef Oven!
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              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              #21
              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
              Hard if you don't get the funding to enable you to stay, though.
              That could be a challenge, but not insurmountable.

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              • Beef Oven!
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                • Sep 2013
                • 18147

                #22
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                Your Freudian slip is showing.

                EDIT - Ah! I see you don't know what I'm going on about!


                That was going to be my reply!!

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                • Pianorak
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3128

                  #23
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                  • ahinton
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    Collapse of the pound? The pound hasn’t collapsed.
                    No, it hasn't collapsed as such, but it has shed a substantial percentage of its value since the opinion poll result was announced more than seven months ago, against the dollar and other currencies, not just the euro.

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                    • ahinton
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                      Oi! Don’t pick on Nigel - if it wasn’t for him, we wouldn’t even have had a referendum
                      All the more reason to pick on him, then!

                      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                      you don’t think it was Cameron who gave us this opportunity, do you?
                      I personally don't think so, I know so - and I am far from alone in that. The referendum was called by Cameron and his party and no one else, although this foolish decision to do so was undoubtedly fuelled at least in part by an irrational and ultimately unfounded fear of defections from his party to UKIP, which was hardly a justifiable basis for the most fundamental legislative change in living memory; if the subject of UK's possible severance from EU membership was to be included in any party manifesto at all (and it was included in only one such without obvious genuine reason), it should never have been so in the form of a referendum but instead subjected to the very kind of Parliamentary debate that the High and Supreme Courts have now insisted upon for the triggering of A50 should it occur.

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                      • ardcarp
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11102

                        #26
                        Had the thread title been Arts Funding in the UK post Brexit, I think most of us could have supplied an answer. Yes, the Arts, plus the Farmers, not to mention the NHS will all be rolling in cash from that saving of £350,000,000 per week.

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                        • MrGongGong
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 18357

                          #27
                          Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                          Had the thread title been Arts Funding in the UK post Brexit, I think most of us could have supplied an answer. Yes, the Arts, plus the Farmers, not to mention the NHS will all be rolling in cash from that saving of £350,000,000 per week.
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                          • teamsaint
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                            No, it hasn't collapsed as such, but it has shed a substantial percentage of its value since the opinion poll result was announced more than seven months ago, against the dollar and other currencies, not just the euro.
                            exchange rates go up, they go down,
                            rich people get richer, the rest of us live with it, same as it ever was.
                            in fact the pound has been below 1.2 euros for quite substantial periods of time over the last 10 years. Actually from late 2007 to mid 2014 it was never over 1.30, and for the vast majority of that time was below 1.2

                            the fall or the pound against the dollar over the same period also broadly reflects the fall of the euro against the dollar.


                            or maybe this is all " post truth."

                            EUR to USD currency chart. XE’s free live currency conversion chart for Euro to US Dollar allows you to pair exchange rate history for up to 10 years.
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                            • ahinton
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                              exchange rates go up, they go down,
                              rich people get richer, the rest of us live with it, same as it ever was.
                              in fact the pound has been below 1.2 euros for quite substantial periods of time over the last 10 years. Actually from late 2007 to mid 2014 it was never over 1.30, and for the vast majority of that time was below 1.2

                              the fall or the pound against the dollar over the same period also broadly reflects the fall of the euro against the dollar.


                              or maybe this is all " post truth."
                              Well, it's in a post, that's for sure! That said, the point is that there's been a substantial fall in the value of the pound since 24 June 2016 and there can be little if any doubt as to the impact of that opinion poll result upon it.

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                              • teamsaint
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 25231

                                #30
                                yes, events clearly affect rates, but it is very significant that the pound is close to where it has been against the euro for much of the last 10 years, and that the decline against the dollar is similar to that experienced by the euro.

                                Running our economy with too much regard to short term exchange rate fluctuations , annoying though they can be, would be pretty unwise.

                                If we want to pick out economic indicators in isolation, you might just as well look at exports, since they are doing well .
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