Originally posted by aeolium
Arts in the UK post-Brexit
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Back on topic, this looks interesting. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-43867724
This BBC Newsbeat item highlights a facility, carnets, that the government along with our EU neighbours could adjust in order to ensure as much of the frictionless European touring of UK ensembles/orchestras/pop groups etc, continues.
Straight off the top of my head I can think of several ways to flex existing carnets so that it would be very close to the current freedom of movement scenario.
To quote Angela Merkel on European people movement challenges "Wir schaffen das"
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Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
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Originally posted by Beef Oven! View PostBack on topic, this looks interesting. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-43867724
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So the key phrase being
"I think the more established acts will be able to financially deal with this [the cost of touring in Europe] without too much trouble."
"It's the smaller acts who will have to think twice"."
Aaah yes wrestling control away from the "elites" again
so it's no problem for U2 and chums BUT a huge one for the rest of us
What a HUGE surprise
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Originally posted by MrGongGong View Postso it's no problem for U2 and chums BUT a huge one for the rest of us
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Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostQuite. But the Remain case isn't really helped very much by unfounded scare stories about UK citizens after Brexit having to have visas to travel to France etc. UK citizens don't need visas to travel to Switzerland or Norway, for example, or for that matter Serbia (although Serbian citizens do require one for the UK).
Sure it's fine to go on holiday but ?
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostI don't think that it was about English identity, though - at least not to the Scots, Welsh, Northern Irish and those from elsewhere who live in UK!
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Originally posted by MrGongGong View PostWhat is unclear is whether we will need visas to travel and work.
Sure it's fine to go on holiday but ?
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Originally posted by Lat-Literal View PostI just don't think we know enough about visas. If the public were told that there was a woman called Mariza who wanted to come in from Portugal to sing for a night in a Wiltshire field, 99+ people out of a hundred people would oppose her being stopped from doing so. I can't see why the reverse should be any different. We need to be told what the new situation will be.
10 accross: "Piece of equipment I can change inside cooker, say"
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Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
So the key phrase being
"I think the more established acts will be able to financially deal with this [the cost of touring in Europe] without too much trouble."
"It's the smaller acts who will have to think twice"."
Aaah yes wrestling control away from the "elites" again
so it's no problem for U2 and chums BUT a huge one for the rest of us
What a HUGE surprise
Now the smaller acts. A huge problem for the rest of us? we don't know that and as Richard says, we don't know what the visa arrangements will be, they may not be a show-stopper (no pun intended). Instead of immediately giving up and saying that it's all impossible, we should try and think of a way through this. Carnets are used by non-EU ensembles and an adapted version could be used by UK groups, post-Brexit, that could enable almost the same frictionless movement that we currently enjoy.
P.S. U2 are from the Irish Republic.
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