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  • ahinton
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 16122

    #76
    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
    ... no - but it looks English : (adjective, possibly pejorative) (plural noun subject) (active verb, present tense) your (singular noun object).

    I still think Burke is the person who sets out why 'tradition' might be important as a stabilizer in society over time (he can of course be argued with).
    Ah, well, since my MP has published a volume on Burke perhaps I should consult him about it...

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    • Serial_Apologist
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 37644

      #77
      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
      Then there's trad Jazz!!!!!!!

      ...and what about Traditions which have disappeared and suddenly someone decides to revive them and twenty years on they're thriving.

      What is or are tradition(s)?

      Good night all.
      The Vinyl Solution??

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37644

        #78
        Originally posted by jean View Post
        The Mail report says


        which doesn't seem quite fair, as it is possible to frame completely new statements using a rearrangement of words one has used before.

        (But I'm not about to do more research to find out.)
        Viz: serial music.

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        • Richard Barrett
          Guest
          • Jan 2016
          • 6259

          #79
          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          I like small meaningless traditions that give some picturesque local colour to life; I am much more suspicious of (and inclined to rebel against) those Big 'Traditions' which we are Called On To Respect with lots of capital letters - royal and military flummery and the like...
          Very nicely put.

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 20570

            #80
            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

            I like small meaningless traditions that give some picturesque local colour to life; I am much more suspicious of (and inclined to rebel against) those Big 'Traditions' which we are Called On To Respect with lots of capital letters - royal and military flummery and the like...

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              #81
              May I very nicely put that I like the bigger 'meaningful' ones, with capital letters, royalty and pomp and circumstance?

              Yes, very nicely put.

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              • teamsaint
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 25204

                #82
                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                May I very nicely put that I like the bigger 'meaningful' ones, with capital letters, royalty and pomp and circumstance?

                Yes, very nicely put.

                TBF, there is also usually a much better range of souvenirs at the bigger , more meaningful ones.
                Great for the tourism industry too.
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • P. G. Tipps
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                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2978

                  #83
                  I love the pageantry of the big royal traditions including all that 'military flummery'. These add a huge dollop of colour to the greyness of much of mundane, everyday life.

                  Of course if one is devoid of any "sense" of tradition then, inevitably, any tradition will indeed come across to that person as thoroughly 'meaningless'

                  Fortunately, many of us do have this very distinct sense whether we stand for God Save the Queen, raise a clenched-fist whilst singing an absurdly outmoded classist-political song, or link arms and pretend we can pronounce, or even possess the faintest clue as to the actual words, of another much more fraternal and universal one at New Year.

                  Everyone to their own tradition I say ...

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                  • ahinton
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 16122

                    #84
                    Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                    I love the pageantry of the big royal traditions including all that 'military flummery'. These add a huge dollop of colour to the greyness of much of mundane, everyday life.
                    You're welcome to it, if "military flummery" has more value to you than your daily life.

                    Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                    Everyone to their own tradition I say ...
                    Everyone to his/her tradition you should say if you must say anything about it at all (sorry - should be in the pedantry thread)...

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                    • jean
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7100

                      #85
                      No he shouldn't - there's a long tradition of using they/their as a gender neutral pronoun.

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                      • MrGongGong
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 18357

                        #86
                        Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                        Everyone to their own tradition I say ...


                        You sound like my mother who after pouring heaps of scorn and derision on people for doing things she doesn't think are "right" is prone to say "each to their own" meaning nothing of the sort.

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30262

                          #87
                          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post


                          … like my mother who after pouring heaps of scorn and derision on people for doing things she doesn't think are "right" …
                          Is that a family tradition?
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20570

                            #88
                            Originally posted by jean View Post
                            No he shouldn't - there's a long tradition of using they/their as a gender neutral pronoun.
                            If they says this, they is incorrect. Tradition is bunk.

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20570

                              #89
                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              Is that a family tradition?

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                              • Richard Barrett
                                Guest
                                • Jan 2016
                                • 6259

                                #90
                                Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                                These add a huge dollop of colour to the greyness of much of mundane, everyday life.
                                If your life is so grey that it needs to be livened up by watching men in funny hats marching up and down, maybe you should get out a bit more! (Or get your own funny hat)

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