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  • french frank
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    • Feb 2007
    • 30261

    #46
    Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
    Warninks produce a disgustingly liquid version only suitable for export. The genuine article requires a spoon both to help it out of the bottle and to consume it. (I have not enquired if Warninks produce such a version - I despise the brand).
    Cooymans Advokaat?
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Alain Maréchal
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      • Dec 2010
      • 1286

      #47
      Have not tried it. Hertekamp, Bols or Verpoorten (the latter slightly suspect since it is German)* for me. If you can safely upturn the open bottle then it is too thin.

      * on reflection I am being illogical since Eierlikoer is excellent.

      mmm, I am now impatient for tomorrow morning's cafepause. Advokaat is why God invented cold mornings. (that, and jenever)

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      • Richard Tarleton

        #48
        Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
        mmm, I am now impatient for tomorrow morning's cafepause. Advokaat is why God invented cold mornings.
        Never tried it.... This, from the Guardian .... Bottled omlette, somebody said....

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        • Alain Maréchal
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          • Dec 2010
          • 1286

          #49
          Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
          Never tried it.... This, from the Guardian .... Bottled omlette, somebody said....
          If the Guardian thinks <<Advocaat is a Dutch version of eggnog>> then it partly explains why the British and Europe are a poor fit. <<Later research reveals the grotesque fact that the Dutch also have a thick version of advocaat which they eat with a spoon. >> The inference is that the Netherlanders (do you still call them Dutch?) have a strange version of a British drink. I'm now thinking, for the first time, that you define "insular", should Brexit and go away.

          (I presume the Guardian would describe Carbonnade Flamande, which I am currently cooking for tonight's Sinterklaas supper, as a weird hotpot.)

          ps <<eggnog is made with eggs and brandy>> is it? It is not. It is made with eggs and brandy and whisky and gin and vodka. What a lot of weaklings work at the Guardian.
          Last edited by Alain Maréchal; 05-12-16, 11:01. Reason: additional ire.

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          • Ferretfancy
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            • Nov 2010
            • 3487

            #50
            Originally posted by jean View Post
            Vegetarians do admit animal products such as cheese or eggs, but these don't involve the killing of the milk- or egg-producing animal itself.

            However I often have to remind them than the consumption of milk by humans does involve the death of the baby animals who would otherwise have drunk it.
            More to the point is that cows have to give birth in order to produce milk, and they have been selectively bred to produce much more milk than they need to for feeding their calves. There's also the point that lots of male calves have a short life ahead of them. I had some vegetarian friends who thought that cows just produced milk without ever being pregnant, not so, sadly.

            I thought that true vegetarians would not eat any animal that loved its mother, thus making fish available for consumption.

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            • Richard Tarleton

              #51
              Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
              If the Guardian thinks <<Advocaat is a Dutch version of eggnog>> then it partly explains why the British and Europe are a poor fit. <<Later research reveals the grotesque fact that the Dutch also have a thick version of advocaat which they eat with a spoon. >> The inference is that the Netherlanders (do you still call them Dutch?) have a strange version of a British drink. I'm now thinking, for the first time, that you define "insular", should Brexit and go away.
              Thanks for that Alain! (like the "additional ire" )
              What a lot of weaklings work at the Guardian.
              Quite! And to think they were for Remain! (I think!)

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              • Old Grumpy
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                • Jan 2011
                • 3604

                #52
                Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
                If the Guardian thinks <<Advocaat is a Dutch version of eggnog>> then it partly explains why the British and Europe are a poor fit. <<Later research reveals the grotesque fact that the Dutch also have a thick version of advocaat which they eat with a spoon. >> The inference is that the Netherlanders (do you still call them Dutch?) have a strange version of a British drink. I'm now thinking, for the first time, that you define "insular", should Brexit and go away.

                (I presume the Guardian would describe Carbonnade Flamande, which I am currently cooking for tonight's Sinterklaas supper, as a weird hotpot.)

                ps <<eggnog is made with eggs and brandy>> is it? It is not. It is made with eggs and brandy and whisky and gin and vodka. What a lot of weaklings work at the Guardian.


                Love it, the ire that is, not Advocaat (nor eggnog for that matter)...

                ... you have made my day.

                OG

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                • Pulcinella
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                  • Feb 2014
                  • 10916

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
                  If you can safely upturn the open bottle then it is too thin.
                  Something lost in translation here, perhaps, Alain?
                  If you can safely invert the open bottle, surely that means that the contents do NOT run out and are quite thick, rather than too thin?

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30261

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
                    ps <<eggnog is made with eggs and brandy>> is it? It is not. It is made with eggs and brandy and whisky and gin and vodka. What a lot of weaklings work at the Guardian.
                    My feeling is that although the alcohol might improve the drink to which it's added, the drink seldom does anything for the alcohol. Unless you use cheap alcohol, I suppose. BUt what kind of brandy would you add to a lait de poule, par exemple!
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • teamsaint
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25204

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                      Something lost in translation here, perhaps, Alain?
                      If you can safely invert the open bottle, surely that means that the contents do NOT run out and are quite thick, rather than too thin?
                      Either way,this thread seems to be snowballing.
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • Alain Maréchal
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 1286

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                        Something lost in translation here, perhaps, Alain?
                        If you can safely invert the open bottle, surely that means that the contents do NOT run out and are quite thick, rather than too thin?
                        Lost in editing, in fact. I had a double negative, attempted to simplify it (Fowler's advice, jean might approve) and inadvertently changed the meaning.
                        Should read: if you CANNOT safely invert the open bottle, then it is too thin. In other words, it must need a spoon to "get at it".

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                        • Alain Maréchal
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 1286

                          #57
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          My feeling is that although the alcohol might improve the drink to which it's added, the drink seldom does anything for the alcohol. Unless you use cheap alcohol, I suppose. BUt what kind of brandy would you add to a lait de poule, par exemple!
                          My standard rule is: if I wouldn't drink it, I wouldn't cook with it.

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                          • vinteuil
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12801

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
                            My standard rule is: if I wouldn't drink it, I wouldn't cook with it.
                            ... you might, however, enjoy

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                            • Alain Maréchal
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1286

                              #59
                              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                              ... you might, however, enjoy

                              http://amzn.eu/4EWjpn1
                              When I'm cooking, a bottle of Fernet Branca for the guests sometimes comes in handy!

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30261

                                #60
                                My standard rule is: cooking with it ruins it. I don't have grand tastes, but I wouldn't waste my Baron de Sigognac on an eggnog. Cognac might not matter …
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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