Would YOU stand for the National Anthem?

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  • Beef Oven!
    Ex-member
    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
    Coincidentally, I haven't seen a similar screen myself in the last couple of days...

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    • MickyD
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 4814

      Thanks for all your thoughts on the iplayer, folks. I have heard talk that the BBC are soon going to offer it outside the UK - but with a subscription charge, natch! I have no idea how much they are thinking of charging.

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      • Beef Oven!
        Ex-member
        • Sep 2013
        • 18147

        Originally posted by MickyD View Post
        Thanks for all your thoughts on the iplayer, folks. I have heard talk that the BBC are soon going to offer it outside the UK - but with a subscription charge, natch! I have no idea how much they are thinking of charging.
        Hopefully, those of us that have a TV licence will get a discount. 100% feels right.

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        • jean
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7100

          Originally posted by jean View Post
          Since Vasily's arrival, they've resumed the practice - but only for the first concert of the season, I think. He must like it.
          From the programme notes to the concert I'm going to this coming Thursday,which is indeed the first of the season:

          The National Anthem

          It is thought that the first performance of the National Anthem, with the melody and words more or less as they are today, was in 1745. Thomas Arne (1710 - 78) is given credit for standardising the words and music at this time, and he is sometimes cited as the composer of the melody. However, the melody itself draws on elements of earlier tunes, including music by John Bull (1563 - 1628) and Henry Purcell (1659 - 95), while Handel used a variant of the tune in the Sarabande of his Suite No.4 in E minor, composed before 1720. Other theories about its origin abound, including a widespread 19th century belief that an old Scots carol, ‘Remember O Thou Man’, was the source of the
          tune.

          The words go back much further: as early as 1545, the phrase ‘God save the King’ and its response ‘Long to reign over us’ were watchwords of the Royal Navy, according to the research of Percy Scholes. Many variants exist, with verses written to emphasise a particular political standpoint – verses were written in 1745 to rally support both for and against the Jacobite Rising – or to commemorate an event.

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          • MickyD
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 4814

            Fascinating - thank you Jean.

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            • jean
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7100

              I've heard the connexion with Remember O thou man suggested before - I probably read the same programme note last year! - and perhaps if you make that a bit more major, it's more convincing. Or is it just the rhythm? Still, comments on this video seem to agree:

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              • David-G
                Full Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 1216

                At the Last Night of the Proms, the whole audience stood for the National Anthem. Of course, we in the Arena didn't have much choice in the matter.

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                • Dave2002
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 18035

                  India

                  India's supreme court says all cinemas must play the national anthem before a film is screened.

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37814

                    At the present rate the world is descending into authoritarianism, it won't be long before breathing will be made compulsory.

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                    • DracoM
                      Host
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 12986

                      Ref: OP: Yes.

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                      • jean
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7100

                        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                        ...it won't be long before breathing will be made compulsory.
                        Isn't it already, unless you want to die?

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                        • P. G. Tipps
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                          • Jun 2014
                          • 2978

                          Of course I would stand for the NA ... why would any decent, tolerant individual who respects democracy do otherwise?

                          What, of course, others do is entirely up to them ... that is of absolutely no significance in my own personal judgement in such matters.

                          In a free country such as ours people can do what the hell they like.

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                          • Warlock
                            Full Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 35

                            Of course I would stand for the British National Anthem.

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                            • P. G. Tipps
                              Full Member
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 2978

                              Actually, I would stand proudly for many anthems ... Flower of Scotland (or whichever other happens to be flavour of the day!), God Save The Queen, Ode to Joy, and last, but certainly not least, the incomparably universal Auld Lang Syne ...

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30456

                                Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                                Actually, I would stand proudly for many anthems ...
                                Yes, on the whole I'd probably stand for any national anthem I'm likely to hear. I wouldn't put my hand over my heart, though. And I probably wouldn't sing.
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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