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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Postgiven levels of disillusionment among a populace now faced with an economic meltdown not of their own makingIt isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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scottycelt
Maybe it is just me then not liking the era we are in
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Originally posted by scottycelt View PostWhich era in history, then, might you have preferred us to be in ... ?
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scottycelt
The period 1945 - 1967 was great to have grown up through; there was the idea that war would be no more, a sense of a better, securer future for all, a narrowing of the gap twixt rich and poor. But of course I was neither gay, nor black.
Wasn't most of that period also a period of conscription? While I agree there was more of a general public friendliness and social concern towards each other (almost certainly due to the previous war) it was also the time of soot-black cities, filthy public transport, countless strikes, death penalties and the irritatingly stubborn remnants of an outdated class-ridden society.
There was also far greater real poverty than we have today, surely ...Last edited by Guest; 20-05-11, 18:41.
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Originally posted by scottycelt View PostT
The idea that war would be no more?
Wasn't most of that period also a period of conscription? While I agree there was more of a general public friendliness and social concern towards each other (almost certainly due to the previous war) it was also the time of soot-black cities, filthy public transport, countless strikes, death penalties and the irritatingly stubborn remnants of an outdated class-ridden society.
There was also far greater real poverty than we have today, surely ...
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Postthere was the idea that war would be no more, a sense of a better, securer future for allIt isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostNot sure that's completely right. At the time of CND's Aldermaston Marches there was quite a sense among young people in particular that nuclear war was a real threat.
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostAnd, apart from a few derelicts, most of them alcoholics, I don't remember people in large numbers begging on the London streets until the 1980s.
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Lateralthinking1
I think conscription intake ended in 1959. My uncle was born in 1942 and didn't have to do it. A skilled manual worker with a business brain, he crossed over easily into white collar work in the sixties - the financial sector - when there were many opportunities available. He benefited hugely from Thatcherism in the eighties and went from a council house to a very large five bedroom detached property in an expensive area. Retirement came at the age of 52. Of course, he also benefited from the considerable advances in social welfare too. He draws a full state pension. While no fool, I doubt that he would be able to achieve a higher education degree. He was never "cut throat" but is as comfortable with today's economics and culture as anyone I know.
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Originally posted by scottycelt View Post. . . an outdated class-ridden society.
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Originally posted by Sydney Grew View PostOutdated? - we do not think so! It is true that the Cockneys as a class appear of late to have been permitted to rise - in certain areas - above their station, an observation which we during our increasingly rare returns to the Old Country find both striking and regrettable, but thankfully that does not in the end matter and the essentials remain. There is no sign yet of mob-rule, and the Corporation continues to occupy the populace with dancing and footleball (and - at least until recently - with Inter-Web fora).
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scottycelt
Conscription ended in 1960 (according to Wiki).
Hate to strongly disagree with all you liberal left-wingers yet again, but, in comparison to that society, I'm quite happy with the era I'm stuck in, thank you very much ... :cool2:
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