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  • jean
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7100

    Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
    I have re-consulted my trusty dictionary and duly noted synonyms for the word 'abnormal'.

    In exact order these are listed as:

    Unusual, uncommon, atypical, untypical, non-typical, unrepresentative, rare, isolated, irregular, anomalous, deviant, deviating, divergent, wayward, aberrant, freak, freakish ... ... and there's more if requested.
    That's not a dictionary you've got there, it's a thesaurus.

    A thesaurus deals in synonyms; a dictionary knows better.

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    • P. G. Tipps
      Full Member
      • Jun 2014
      • 2978

      Why did you deliberately alter my words in your 'quote' and believe that no one would notice, Mr GG?

      Are you really that naive?

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      • P. G. Tipps
        Full Member
        • Jun 2014
        • 2978

        Originally posted by jean View Post
        That's not a dictionary you've got there, it's a thesaurus.

        A thesaurus deals in synonyms; a dictionary knows better.
        A thesaurus is part of any comprehensive dictionary. One doesn't 'know better' than the other.

        For the unaware, please note the dictionary definition of synonym:

        a word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language, for example shut is a synonym of close.

        Hope this helps, jean.

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        • vinteuil
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12801

          ... dictionaries can of course be useful. But they tend to focus on denotation rather than connotation. I don't think that PG Tipps pays sufficient attention to the connotations of some of the words he chooses - such as 'abnormal'.

          And if there were one word I would recommend for abolition it wd be 'natural'...



          .

          This is part of a popular hypertext guide to semiotics by Daniel Chandler at the University of Wales, Aberystwyth.



          .

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          • MrGongGong
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            Originally posted by jean View Post
            That's not a dictionary you've got there, it's a thesaurus.

            A thesaurus deals in synonyms; a dictionary knows better.
            I suspect it's Roger's Brontosaurus )

            (I'm keen on this one though http://viz.co.uk/category/rogers-profanisaurus/ )




            Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
            Why did you deliberately alter my words in your 'quote' and believe that no one would notice, Mr GG?

            Are you really that naive?
            Why do you think they were in BOLD?

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            • ahinton
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 16122

              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
              ... dictionaries can of course be useful. But they tend to focus on denotation rather than connotation. I don't think that PG Tipps pays sufficient attention to the connotations of some of the words he chooses - such as 'abnormal'.

              And if there were one word I would recommend for abolition it wd be 'natural'...
              Agreed about Tippster.

              But with what would you replace "natural" as a term for a symbol indicating cancellation of sharps and double sharps, flats and duplexes I mean double flats?

              Abnormal people in the night? - or on a train? Dr Abnormalove?

              Enough!
              Last edited by ahinton; 04-05-16, 15:02.

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              • P. G. Tipps
                Full Member
                • Jun 2014
                • 2978

                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                ... dictionaries can of course be useful. But they tend to focus on denotation rather than connotation. I don't think that PG Tipps pays sufficient attention to the connotations of some of the words he chooses - such as 'abnormal'.
                That may well be true and it's a fair point, though I'm normally fairly careful with my words, ever-conscious of the sensitivity of others.

                However, my use of the word 'abnormal' in the context of the OP's experience surely had no 'connotations' whatsoever other than to those who were utterly determined that it did have and to enable them to pursue their quite separate and long-worn-out agendas!

                The media is constantly telling us a club like Leicester City winning the Premier League is 'abnormal', which of course it is, but I suppose one or two L.C. supporters might consider that a quite unacceptable thing to say because of perceived 'connotations' that their club is in some way "strange". I think hypersensitivity on the part of the listener/reader might also be part of the same problem?

                However, I'm not sure ahinton has actually decided on the word we should all use instead of 'abnormal' so I'll now plump for "atypical" myself!

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                • ahinton
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 16122

                  Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                  I suspect it's Roger's Brontosaurus )

                  (I'm keen on this one though http://viz.co.uk/category/rogers-profanisaurus/ )
                  Now I don't think that this one has its origins in the recently mentioned (elsewhere in this forum) Mr Wright or Mr Nichols, or even Sir Moore, but I wonder if I'll ever be able to listen to Król Roger again now withoutg being reminded of this...

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                  • P. G. Tipps
                    Full Member
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 2978

                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    Why do you think they were in BOLD?
                    Your supposed "quote" of mine #118 is not what I actually typed in #116 and there is no BOLD type anywhere!

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                    • ahinton
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 16122

                      Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                      That may well be true and it's a fair point, though I'm normally fairly careful with my words, ever-conscious of the sensitivity of others.
                      !!!

                      Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                      However, I'm not sure ahinton has actually decided on the word we should all use instead of 'abnormal' so I'll now plump for "atypical" myself!
                      #99. #112/114. How many more clues do you need? You really aren't concentrating, are you?! And in any case I did not "decide" on anything that "all" here should do, use or otherwise.

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                      • MrGongGong
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 18357

                        Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                        Your supposed "quote" of mine monkey monkey monkey #118 is not what I actually typed in #116 and there is no BOLD type anywhere!
                        There is NOW

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                        • P. G. Tipps
                          Full Member
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 2978

                          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                          There is NOW
                          Ah, so not only what you said I said wasn't true, even what you said you said wasn't true either?

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                          • MrGongGong
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

                            Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                            Ah, so not only what you said I said wasn't true, even what you said you said wasn't true either?

                            Just because you read something in a book or on a screen doesn't make it "true".
                            Now where's my Brontosaurus ?

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                            • P. G. Tipps
                              Full Member
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 2978

                              Certainly, if a book has Mr GongGong as its author I consider that might well be very sage advice, Mr GongGong!

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                              • Flosshilde
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7988

                                Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                                I'm normally fairly careful with my words, ever-conscious of the sensitivity of others.
                                That may well be true, and if it is it's a tribute to a Jesuitical education.

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