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  • MrGongGong
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    Finchcocks instrument auction

    Some of you might be interested in this?
    I've been after a Tibetan telescopic trumpet for a while but fear the one here will be too expensive
    but some wonderful instruments in this (rather sad) sale

  • LeMartinPecheur
    Full Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 4717

    #2
    Hmm, I wonder what the late founder of the collection would think of the values placed upon his treasures.

    "Yet another Broadwood square piano: do I hear £100 pounds? 80 pounds??"
    I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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    • Tony Halstead
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1717

      #3
      Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
      Hmm, I wonder what the late founder of the collection would think of the values placed upon his treasures.

      "Yet another Broadwood square piano: do I hear £100 pounds? 80 pounds??"
      As far as I know, Mr Burnett is still very much alive and not yet 'late'.
      I'm thinking that those various Broadwood and other 'square pianos' are going to sell for maybe 4 or 5 times their estimates.

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      • David-G
        Full Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 1216

        #4
        Richard and Katrina Burnett are indeed very much alive. They write:

        The important point however is to reassure everyone that we have not abandoned our project of recreating and preserving the sound-world of the great baroque, classical and romantic composers. We will be retaining our Core Collection of playing instruments , as an Open Resource for musical events and research, we will be keeping the Finchcocks Charity for Musical Education to support the maintenance of the instruments and the events themselves. We also will be keeping and re-forming our team of players, teachers and technicians. We are at present exploring alternative locations and various interesting projects.

        You can read their full message here: http://www.friendsofsquarepianos.co.uk/finchcocks/.

        The "Core Collection" consists of twelve of the best instruments. The auctioneers write:

        A small, core collection will be retained as part of the existing Finchcocks Charity. Proceeds from the auction will support the charity in training technicians and tuners, keeping these historical instruments in superb playing condition and preserving their original sound through performance.

        There are still two days left, tomorrow and Monday, for anyone who has not yet been to Finchcocks to experience the magic of the place.

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        • David-G
          Full Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 1216

          #5
          Originally posted by Tony View Post
          I'm thinking that those various Broadwood and other 'square pianos' are going to sell for maybe 4 or 5 times their estimates.
          Indeed so. But some of the squares which are priced ultra-cheaply are in need of a considerable amount of restoration.

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          • Dave2002
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 18010

            #6
            Originally posted by David-G View Post
            Richard and Katrina Burnett are indeed very much alive.

            There are still two days left, tomorrow and Monday, for anyone who has not yet been to Finchcocks to experience the magic of the place.
            It doesn't look to me as though the place will be open again - http://www.finchcocks.co.uk/index.php

            Pity - I never went, but often thought about going. I think I have at least one LP recorded on an instrument from the collection.

            Great looking catalogue. At the prices listed I could even afford some of the instruments, though as suggested they may go for a lot more. I certainly hope so, as otherwise splitting up the collection would seem to be a great shame, and the aims of the sale would be severely compromised.

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            • LeMartinPecheur
              Full Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 4717

              #7
              Originally posted by David-G View Post
              Richard and Katrina Burnett are indeed very much alive.
              Oops, I'm delighted to hear it
              I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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              • David-G
                Full Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 1216

                #8
                Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                It doesn't look to me as though the place will be open again - http://www.finchcocks.co.uk/index.php

                Pity - I never went, but often thought about going. I think I have at least one LP recorded on an instrument from the collection.
                You could still go tomorrow Sunday, and Monday. The place is open for viewing for the sale - but everything is much as it ever was. You can see the instruments in the beautiful panelled rooms, and play them, and explore the garden, and see the sheep in the surrounding fields.

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                • BBMmk2
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20908

                  #9
                  Very sad to hear this. It was also sad to hear the Finchcocks collection being no more. I was looking forward to seeing this collection. Alas however....
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • mercia
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 8920

                    #10
                    A collection of 70 historic keyboards is being auctioned for charity, in the hope of raising up to £900,000.


                    A collection of 70 historic keyboards belonging to a concert pianist sells for more than £835,000 at auction.
                    Last edited by mercia; 13-05-16, 11:41.

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                    • David Pinnegar
                      Full Member
                      • Oct 2024
                      • 1

                      #11
                      In the course of being asked by a documentary researcher of the provenance of an instrument at Hammerwood Park in Sussex with delight I stumbled upon this page. From the Finchcocks auction two instruments came to Hammerwood and now serve in concert.

                      https://youtu.be/aIVUyu7v48U?t=672 and https://youtu.be/xwh4Xb1waC0?t=704 is the 1802 Stodart grand which was possibly the most interesting of all the collection being the closest to the transition from harpsichord to piano.

                      The other instrument, reputedly Dick Burnett's favourite, was the 1859 Concert Iron Broadwood which had been hired to Charles Hallé in that year and bought at full price of 250 guineas by a member of the Manchester audience saying that it was the most wonderful instrument he'd heard in his life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=289iHaTM2f4 was a concert earlier this year.

                      Before the Finchcocks collection was the Colt Collection, sold a year or two later and an 1819 Beethoven model Broadwood came from there and now enchants audiences and
                      Ralitsa Penkova performs on the 1819 Broadwood at Hammerwood Park. This instrument was the same model as was sent to Beethoven. Formerly at the Colt Collecti...

                      Ralitsa Penkova performs on the 1819 Broadwood at Hammerwood Park. This instrument was the same model as was sent to Beethoven. Formerly at the Colt Collecti...

                      Beethoven Tempest Sonata on an 1819 Broadwood tuned to Kirnberger III temperament. This piano was the same model as that which was given to Beethoven. Howeve...


                      are a few recordings.

                      Best wishes

                      David Pinnegar

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30259

                        #12
                        Thank you for those links, David. Fascinating. I thought we had been discussing Finchcocks more recently than 2016 ... ?
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • gradus
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 5606

                          #13
                          Thanks indeed, some interesting links to follow up.
                          Coincidentally the TV series Fake or Fortune this week moved from pictures to a piano and a guitar. The piano, a 1901Broadwood Baby Grand was reputedly played on by John Lennon and possibly owned by him, its current owner being Chesney Hawkes. No Lennon connection was proved but somebody said that he knew that the instrument had been at Lennon's (subsequently Ringo Starr's ) house whilst he lived there. This was enough for the Sotheby's valuer to put an estimate of between £10k and £15k on the instrument should it come to auction. If the Lennon link could be proved the proverbial sky's the limit. The guitar however remained a mystery as neither Ronnie Woods nor Keith Richards -both were possible previous owners - could remember owning it.

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                          • Dave2002
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 18010

                            #14
                            The links to Hammerwood Park are interesting too - https://www.hammerwoodpark.co.uk/concerts.php

                            Quite a few videos of instruments being played with different temperaments accessible from there.

                            Has anyone round here been to Hammerwood Park? Is it worth making a visit? Looks possibly worth the effort.

                            I see that Hatchlands is still functioning as a piano repository.

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