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  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    #16
    Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
    A complaint is surely only justified if the post breaks the house rules or is personally offensive. I didn't see anything like that?
    I suggest you take another look at some of the contributions. Lack of respect for other contributors is certainly to be found in this thread.

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    • Flosshilde
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7988

      #17
      Ahinton's post no.2 & the reply in no.4 possibly, but no worse than has been posted in other threads by the former, & wasn't there a spat between ahinton and (I think, but could be wrong) BeefOven in another thread about how (allegedly) tedious the former's posts sometimes are? Which didn't, as far as I know, earn complaints or reprimand.

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      • ahinton
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        • Nov 2010
        • 16123

        #18
        The reason that I took up FF's reference to complaints was quite simply that the thread is about Shakespeare, of all people and BBC Radio 3's supposed response to the 400th anniversary of his death - a response which, as has been pointed out by others, is not really as the OP describes it.
        Last edited by ahinton; 24-04-16, 03:14.

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30820

          #19
          I believe the source of the complaint was the comment:

          For tedium, I need look no further than any of your posts.
          This was from a third party. It does infringe the House Rule: "Please treat other members respectfully, even/especially if you disagree with what they are saying …"

          Whether the insult is addressed at oneself or another member, it doesn't make for a very pleasant atmosphere. The Ignore facility is available if you don't want to read particular members' posts.

          However, back to the topic: Pro or Anti the Shakespeare season?
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Flosshilde
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            • Nov 2010
            • 7988

            #20
            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            However, back to the topic: Pro or Anti the Shakespeare season?
            I tend not to listen to much R3 (or any other radio) on Saturday - too busy in the morning (vacuuming rather drowns it out) & the afternoon is not of much interest, so today I've heard a small bit of BaL & Otello from the Met (not too keen on the Otello, btw - sounds a bit strained). Neither of which, I feel, is 'overdoing' Shakespeare. Verdi, possibly. Don't know about tomorrow. If I'm capable I'll be trying to get round as many Glasgow International exhibitions as possible (I would have been doing that today if my heart hadn't been playing up). So, hopefully, I won't be listening to much radio on Sunday either ('hopefully' not because I wouldn't want to, but because I want to see the exhibitions & the festival closes on Monday).

            Which really is the answer to Anastasius' problem - if you don't like what's on the radio do, or listen to, something else. R3 isn't anybody's personal radio station. But, I don't see anything wrong with the 'immersion' idea, as long as it's not done too often. And as you said Shakespeare has provided inspiration for a wide range of composers, enough to make a very varied weekend's programming.

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            • ahinton
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              • Nov 2010
              • 16123

              #21
              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              However, back to the topic: Pro or Anti the Shakespeare season?
              Pro, unquestionably.

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              • Lento
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                • Jan 2014
                • 646

                #22
                I'm afraid I'm inclined to agree with OP: but then, I'm not terribly keen on saturation concerts either, eg the recently broadcast organ recital of Reger: mind you, I do loath him.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #23
                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  However, back to the topic: Pro or Anti the Shakespeare season?
                  I'm "pro" the idea of a "Shakespeare Season", because the theme is so malleable to everything in R3's gravitational field.

                  Very "anti" the embarrassing and slovenly presentation of much of what I heard over the weekend.
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Lento View Post
                    I'm afraid I'm inclined to agree with OP: but then, I'm not terribly keen on saturation concerts either, eg the recently broadcast organ recital of Reger: mind you, I do loath him.
                    But, Lento - where was this "saturation"? Was there non-stop Sonnet readings? The complete plays, back-to-back? All the poems? "Unadorned" Shakespeare over the weekend amounted to less broadcasting time than the broadcast of Otello from the Met.

                    "Saturation"? It barely got damp!
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • ahinton
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 16123

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Lento View Post
                      I'm afraid I'm inclined to agree with OP: but then, I'm not terribly keen on saturation concerts either, eg the recently broadcast organ recital of Reger: mind you, I do loath him.
                      But that's just one recital; hardly what you could call "saturation" in the sense in which the term is customarily used around these parts!

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                      • ahinton
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 16123

                        #26
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        But, Lento - where was this "saturation"? Was there non-stop Sonnet readings? The complete plays, back-to-back? All the poems? "Unadorned" Shakespeare over the weekend amounted to less broadcasting time than the broadcast of Otello from the Met.

                        "Saturation"? It barely got damp!
                        Exactly! As I stated previously, what I read in the OP was an abrasively expressed complaint about a saturation that many might well have regarded as eminently justified on the 400th anniversary of the subject's death (given the widely recognised international importance of that subject) but which had not in any case occurred! It was followed by an admission on his part that he disliked any such "saturation" programming, whoever its subject might be. Says it all, really!

                        As Mr Porter didn't quite say (but might well have done had he read the OP!), "Brush up your Shakespeare / Stop dissing him now!"...

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                        • DracoM
                          Host
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 13028

                          #27
                          AND we got through an immersion / birthday w/end of Shakespeare without a single of his plays on either radio or TV.


                          Ahem...................

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                          • Lento
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                            • Jan 2014
                            • 646

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                            But that's just one recital; hardly what you could call "saturation" in the sense in which the term is customarily used around these parts!
                            I'm not sure what to call a recital devoted to several separate works or arrangements by one composer which also serves for a themed weekend..."themed", I guess. Or "immersion" in a particular theme, composer or whatever: after which one may, or may not, feel saturated!
                            Last edited by Lento; 25-04-16, 17:34.

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                            • eighthobstruction
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6533

                              #29
                              ....definitely pro (during late Sunday morn and early afternoon)....ESPECIALLY as they gave Miles Davis: He Loved Him Madly an airing ....
                              bong ching

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                              • ahinton
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 16123

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Lento View Post
                                I'm not sure what to call a recital devoted to several separate works or arrangements by one composer: themed, I guess. Or "immersion" in a particular theme, composer or whatever: after which one might feel a little saturated!
                                A single composer recital, I imagine - of which there are plenty given of music by Beethoven, Chopin, Liszt, Brahms and heaven knows who else - but, compared to the Total Immersion programmes or even CotW such things are relatively small fry in terms of exposure a single creator's work; perhaps the OP disapproves of CotW in principle - who knows?...

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