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It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View PostI’m not sure you can infer anything about people’s precise listening habits from the 95/21 comparison.
The 'selective' listener was precisely the type of listener that the Third/Radio 3 expected to attract.
Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View PostAlso Rajar always has a health warning on comparisons between years so far apart.
Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View PostThat said looking at Genome it’s fair to say that between 06.00/ 07.00 and 12.00 more short pieces are broadcast.
Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View PostYou are right about the move to “background “ listening . There’s been quite a lot of audience research into this. I don’t know much about the radio side of things but TV viewing is often “the background” to activities like reading , ironing , drinking , texting, chatting etc. The whole idea of doing one thing at a time in your leisure hours is very 19th century
Further thought: the timing of CotW then and now is significant!
Forgot the link to the schedule I was quoting: Feb 28 1992Last edited by french frank; 20-05-22, 14:55.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by antongould View PostRadio 3 has 2.02m listeners …. Should I be very excited ….. ?????
R3 has remained sort of steady but interestingly, CFM has seen a big drop and Scala even more so. Presumably CFM's and Scala's listeners haven't gone to R3 so where have they gone? Is Classical music losing its audience in the UK?
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Originally posted by antongould View PostRadio 3 has 2.02m listeners …. Should I be very excited ….. ?????
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Originally posted by antongould View PostRadio 3 has 2.02m listeners …. Should I be very excited ….. ?????
So "very excited" would, in my view, be … I'm just short of an adjective here Depends what excites you.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by hmvman View PostJust been reading about this on David Taylor's blog: https://www.david-taylor.org/blog/cl...f-the-pandemic
R3 has remained sort of steady but interestingly, CFM has seen a big drop and Scala even more so. Presumably CFM's and Scala's listeners haven't gone to R3 so where have they gone? Is Classical music losing its audience in the UK?
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Classic FM has dropped below 5m, and at a quick look that may be a first in recent times. There has been a sustained decline from a high point at about 6.9m. I don't think this fall in reach can be attributed in any way to the pandemic. Where it seems to me to be reflected in R3's figures too is that, short of being provided with conclusive proof to the contrary - kept well under wraps at R3 -I'd say R3's classical music audience has probably been declining too. The increase in 'popular music' programmes** would account for the fact that listening hours also remain steady, and this type of programming lends itself to sustained 'listening' - the radio on as background listening with half an ear, switching on when it begins and off when it ends.
The thing to remember about these raw figures is that, as they remain steady, the number of potential listeners has increased considerably. New stations pick up some and others, like 6 Music, increase steadily. R3 had approximately the same number of listeners in 2006, but the radio audience has increased by 7m. R3 takes the desperate course of trying to hold on to its 2m listeners by playing any sort of music they think will attract listeners.
** I use the description 'poular music' to refer to non-classical, non-jazz, non-world music which attracts 30-40 somethings in higher numbers than do the specialist genres mentioned. 6Music listeners increase at pace.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Also just noticed: is this the first quarter ever that all commercial radio listening has overtaken all BBC radio listening? If so, that would be another milestone.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by oddoneout View PostMilestone for commercial radio perhaps, but more of a headstone for BBC?
Looks like there was a 'make the best of things' BBC press release, not reported by BBC news itself.
And R3's Breakfast dips below 700k at 696k.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostIndeed. In fact, I see The Guardian had the story: actually, the first time since the 1990s that there has been less BBC listening than commercial. Put down to deep cuts at the BBC. Only found that as I was looking for the BBC's coverage. I suppose it's there somewhere, but I couldn't see it on Entertainment and Arts.
Looks like there was a 'make the best of things' BBC press release, not reported by BBC news itself.
And R3's Breakfast dips below 700k at 696k.
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Originally posted by antongould View PostAh but, ah but, Lizzy Alker - a very reliable source - has just tweeted “ because Saturday Breakfast Rajars are ⬆️ Thank you to everyone who tunes in.“ ….. it’s my pleasure ….It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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