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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20565

    Passing the baton

    Not the conductor's baton, but the relay baton.

    A composer is born, then dies and passes the baton on to another.

    For example:

    Riccardo Broschi (c. 1698 – 1756)
    Mozart (1756-1791)
    Czerny (1791- 1857)
    Elgar (1857-1934)
    Peter Maxwell Davies (1934-2016)

    Any others?
  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    #2
    That's far too clever, Alpie. But assuming there's some Re-Incarnazione at work, I've often wondered whose muse Bach, Handel and Scarlatti inherited in1685?
    (Maybe just a tad fanciful...Bach 1685 - 1750, Salieri 1750 - 1825 ?)

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    • teamsaint
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 25178

      #3
      Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
      That's far too clever, Alpie. But assuming there's some Re-Incarnazione at work, I've often wondered whose muse Bach, Handel and Scarlatti inherited in1685?
      Juan Hidalgo?

      ( 1614-1685)
      Last edited by teamsaint; 03-04-16, 08:06.
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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
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        • Nov 2010
        • 20565

        #4
        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
        That's far too clever, Alpie. But assuming there's some Re-Incarnazione at work, I've often wondered whose muse Bach, Handel and Scarlatti inherited in1685?
        (Maybe just a tad fanciful...Bach 1685 - 1750, Salieri 1750 - 1825 ?)
        Well that's a good start:

        JS Bach 1685-1750
        Salieri 1750-1825
        J.Strauss II 1825-1899
        Poulenc 1899-1957
        Hans Zimmer 1957 -

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        • Pabmusic
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          • May 2011
          • 5537

          #5
          My own artistic tree:

          W. A. Mozart 1756-1791
          Ferdinand Hérold 1791-1833
          Sir William Cusins 1833-1893
          Rued Langgaard 1893-1952
          Pabmusic 1952-?

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 20565

            #6
            Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
            My own artistic tree:

            W. A. Mozart 1756-1791
            Ferdinand Hérold 1791-1833
            Sir William Cusins 1833-1893
            Rued Langgaard 1893-1952
            Pabmusic 1952-?

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            • ardcarp
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 11102

              #7
              Pity we can't be literal and pass the conductor's baton. As 'the conductor' as artist in his own right is a relatively recent phenomenon, there just aren't enough generations to go round. Incidentally, who was the first 'star' conductor who wasn't also a noted composer? Hans von Bulow?

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              • BBMmk2
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                #8
                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                Well that's a good start:

                JS Bach 1685-1750
                Salieri 1750-1825
                J.Strauss II 1825-1899
                Poulenc 1899-1957
                Hans Zimmer 1957 -
                Tim Wheeler 1956-? ()
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                  Pity we can't be literal and pass the conductor's baton. As 'the conductor' as artist in his own right is a relatively recent phenomenon, there just aren't enough generations to go round. Incidentally, who was the first 'star' conductor who wasn't also a noted composer? Hans von Bulow?
                  Charles Hallé (1819 - 95)?
                  Francois Habeneck (1781 - 1849)?
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20565

                    #10
                    Tartini 1692-1770
                    Beethoven 1770-1827
                    Josef Strauss 1827-1870
                    Lehar 1870-1948
                    David Stoll 1948-

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                    • vinteuil
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12689

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                      Pity we can't be literal and pass the conductor's baton. As 'the conductor' as artist in his own right is a relatively recent phenomenon, there just aren't enough generations to go round. Incidentally, who was the first 'star' conductor who wasn't also a noted composer? Hans von Bulow?
                      Louis George Maurice Adolphe Roche Albert Abel Antonio Alexandre Noë Jean Lucien Daniel Eugène Joseph-le-Brun Joseph-Barême Thomas Thomas Thomas-Thomas Pierre Arbon Pierre-Maurel Barthélemi Artus Alphonse Bertrand Dieudonné Emanuel Josué Vincent Luc Michel Jules-de-la-plane Jules-Bazin Julio César Jullien [1812-1860]

                      Last edited by vinteuil; 03-04-16, 17:53.

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                      • Nick Armstrong
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26461

                        #12
                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                        Louis George Maurice Adolphe Roche Albert Abel Antonio Alexandre Noë Jean Lucien Daniel Eugène Joseph-le-brun Joseph-Barême Thomas Thomas Thomas-Thomas Pierre Arbon Pierre-Maurel Barthélemi Artus Alphonse Bertrand Dieudonné Emanuel Josué Vincent Luc Michel Jules-de-la-plane Jules-Bazin Julio César Jullien [1812-1860]

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis-Antoine_Jullien


                        Lou-Lou to his friends...

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                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • Keraulophone
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1943

                          #13
                          Thomas Thomas Thomas-Thomas

                          Julio César - Et tu, Julio?

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