Nikolaus Harnoncourt R.I.P

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  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    #16
    Nikolaus Harnoncourt RIP

    It is with great sadness to hear of the passing of Nikolaus Harnoncourt.

    The one thing I do treasure, above all, his the Beethoven set. His JSB work and everything else he did, was superlative.
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750

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    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #17
      I heard this via The book of face, as Cali calls it, from Tasmin Little. She although never worked with him, admired him greatly and as do we, for all the great recordings etc, he has left us. RIP
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • pastoralguy
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7746

        #18
        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
        One of my conductor-heroes, from the moment I bought his unsurpassable CMW Telemann TWV 55s... then the COE Beethoven, the RCOA Haydn, the Berlin Phil Brahms set, the COE/Schumann Cycle with the supplementary Berlin Phil 4th, the VPO Bruckner..what profound adventures in listening he took me on!


        I hadn't yet found time for the last-issued Beethoven 4 and 5. Now I shall.../I]
        I put this Beethoven 5 on as soon as I read the news, Jayne, and had a huge grin as I realised that his last recorded 'word' should be the distorted rhythm at the end of the symphony as if he was cocking a snook by saying I'm going to end this MY WAY!

        Now for his COoE Pastoral symphony...
        Last edited by pastoralguy; 06-03-16, 20:09.

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        • bluestateprommer
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 3008

          #19
          One droll NH anecdote embedded in serious philosophy about conducting is c/o Barry Millington's tribute in The Guardian:

          One of the most influential conductors of the 20th century, he brought a historical perspective to his work


          'To the end of his life he remained fundamentally opposed to the cult of the autocratic conductor – the only man he acknowledged as “maestro” was his hairdresser, he joked. His rehearsal process was collegiate, with musicians as partners.'
          Have started to listen a bit more intently, since his retirement, to his recordings on Telefunken/Teldec of the JSB Cantatas, with the knowledge that he had retired from the scene. It takes on more meaning now, now that he's gone. His website has a note in German:

          Eintauchen in die Welt von Nikolaus Harnoncourt. Ein Archiv über Leben und Werke als interaktive Zeitleiste.


          "Nikolaus Harnoncourt (1929-2016)

          Heute erreichte das styriarte-Büro eine Nachricht, mit der man rechnen musste, die die Welt aber nichts desto trotz erschüttern wird:

          Am 5.3.2016 ist Nikolaus Harnoncourt friedlich im Kreis seiner Familie entschlafen.

          Trauer und Dankbarkeit sind groß. Es war eine wunderbare Zusammenarbeit.

          Alice Harnoncourt und Familie"
          A poor paraphrase of the Google translation goes:

          "Today a message reached the Styriarte office with which to be reckoned, which is modest for the world but shattering nevertheless:

          On 03.05.2016 Nikolaus Harnoncourt died peacefully in his sleep, surrounded by his family.

          Our grief, and gratitude, are great. It was a wonderful collaboration.

          Alice Harnoncourt and family"

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30256

            #20
            This is the Music Matters interview of 2012, mentioned in the Guardian obituary:

            Suzy Klein presents a rare interview with Austrian conductor Nikolaus Harnoncourt.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • gurnemanz
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7382

              #21
              RIP. His recordings have been in my collection for nearly 50 years and quite recently, having got the Teldec Complete Bach USB, I have had the pleasure of getting to know even more. So glad we went to see him for the first (and last) time in 2012 for a memorable Missa Solemnis with the Concertgebouw at the Barbican when was presented with Royal Philharmonic Society’s Gold Medal.

              [PS Google has not excelled itself in the first line of that translation above:
              "mit der man rechnen musste" is more like "which was not unexpected"
              "die die Welt aber nichts desto trotz erschüttern wird" not sure how "modest" got in there ... "but is shattering for the world nevertheless" makes more sense.]
              Last edited by gurnemanz; 07-03-16, 09:15.

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              • CallMePaul
                Full Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 789

                #22
                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                It is with great sadness to hear of the passing of Nikolaus Harnoncourt.

                The one thing I do treasure, above all, his the Beethoven set.
                I also vividly remember his 1994 Beethoven Cycle with the Philharmonia at the RFH. Sad if not totally unexpected news - RIP

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                • Petrushka
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12242

                  #23
                  Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
                  I also vividly remember his 1994 Beethoven Cycle with the Philharmonia at the RFH. Sad if not totally unexpected news - RIP
                  They also did the cycle in Birmingham which is where I caught two of the concerts and the only occasions I saw Harnoncourt.
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • makropulos
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1669

                    #24
                    RIP. What an extraordinary musician he was - and it's hard to think of (m)any others who have made a greater impact on the way music is played today.

                    The last time I heard him live was in Vienna for the amazing performance of Timotheus (Mozart's arrangement - further doctored by Mosel - of Handel's Alexander's Feast) in the Musikverein (2012), to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the Gesellschaft der Musikfreunde (I gave a talk at the celebratory conference that was on at the same time). I didn't realise until recently, but this was subsequently released by Sony on 2 CDs - well worth hearing.

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                    • BBMmk2
                      Late Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      #25
                      He retired only recently, with his failing health. Yes, very sad but not totally unexpected. He will be sorely missed
                      Don’t cry for me
                      I go where music was born

                      J S Bach 1685-1750

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                      • Pabmusic
                        Full Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 5537

                        #26
                        I'm saddened, but I have many good memories.

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                        • doversoul1
                          Ex Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 7132

                          #27
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          The young revolutionary. Sobering how quickly time catches up with us.
                          It is indeed sobering. Second generation of period performers are now well established. What a great achievement!

                          RIP

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                          • Barbirollians
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11672

                            #28
                            Very sad news but as was said not unexpected following his apparently sudden retirement . Not my favourite conductor by any means and I struggled with his Beethoven and Mozart orchestral recordings . He was in my opinion an exceptional Schumann conductor and his recording of Das Paradis und Die Peri is magical and reveals the rather nelected work to be an absolute masterpiece . His conducting of choral works I was much more drawn to generally and his Missa Solemnis is also terrific .

                            RIP

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                            • MickyD
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 4754

                              #29
                              France Musique has prepared an admirably rapid two-day tribute to Harnoncourt, broadcast yesterday and today.

                              Tout l'univers de la musique Classique, Jazz, Contemporaine et plus. Écoutez tous les programmes de France Musique en direct, replay radio et podcasts.

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                              • DracoM
                                Host
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 12965

                                #30
                                We are all indebted whether we know it or not.

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