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  • subcontrabass
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 2780
    #766
    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
    Or, perhaps, "The White Rose"?
    In one version, yes.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163
      #767
      Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
      In one version, yes.
      Nothing to do with Yorkshire, but the name of the young German anti-Nazi group, members of which were "executed" for treason towards the end of the Second World War.

      "(Die) Weisse Rose" (original, with definite article) 1967, revised (without) 1986, and "Der Schuhu und die fliegende Prinzessin" (the Owl-man and the Flying Princess) of 1976 are both operas by Udo Zimmermann (b 1943).

      The entire Weisse Rose is available on youtube:

      Opéra Rose Blanche (Die Weisse Rose) de Udo Zimmermann, enregistré à Nantes
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgNLzjAA1JE
      enregistrement d'ARTENicolas Farine , directionElizabeth Bailey, sopranoArmando Noguera, BarytonEnsemble instrumental Le NEC


      I have this CD:

      http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zimmermann-Weisse-Rose-Udo/dp/B000028AZA
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • subcontrabass
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 2780
        #768
        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
        Nothing to do with Yorkshire, but the name of the young German anti-Nazi group, members of which were "executed" for treason towards the end of the Second World War.

        "(Die) Weisse Rose" (original, with definite article) 1967, revised (without) 1986, and "Der Schuhu und die fliegende Prinzessin" (the Owl-man and the Flying Princess) of 1976 are both operas by Udo Zimmermann (b 1943).
        as is also Die Sündflut (The Deluge).

        We look to you to lead the Advance.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163
          #769
          Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
          as is also Die Sündflut (The Deluge).
          Indeed - I'd forgotten to mention having written two elements for the second clue!

          We look to you to lead the Advance.
          Towards the flame, the little mermaid changes for the dance. A?
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22068
            #770
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            Nothing to do with Yorkshire
            ...or even the Cornish song!

            Anything to do with Ariel?

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26440
              #771
              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              Towards the flame A?
              Alexander Scriabin presumably too obvious...?
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163
                #772
                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                ...or even the Cornish song!
                I didn't know of this before now:

                Page not found – An Daras
                http://www.an-daras.com/cornish-songs/The_White_Rose-An_Rosen_Wyn.pdf


                (there's a clip on youTube where it's sung ... AT A WEDDING!!!)

                Anything to do with Ariel?
                No. Nor Purcell, either, if I may be so Bold.
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163
                  #773
                  Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                  Alexander Scriabin presumably too obvious...?
                  It may be obvious, but it's correct - you've got the first element. (The second's as straightforward, too. Then it might get tricky.)
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26440
                    #774
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    It may be obvious, but it's correct - you've got the first element. (The second's as straightforward, too. Then it might get tricky.)
                    Ah ha!

                    So the second would be The Little Mermaid (Die Seejungfrau) by Alexander von Zemlinsky

                    Bracing myself for the third part...
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163
                      #775
                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      Ah ha!

                      So the second would be The Little Mermaid (Die Seejungfrau) by Alexander von Zemlinsky

                      Bracing myself for the third part...
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • subcontrabass
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 2780
                        #776
                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post

                        Bracing myself for the third part...[/COLOR]
                        I think you need a metamorphosis.

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163
                          #777
                          Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
                          I think you need a metamorphosis.
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26440
                            #778
                            Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
                            I think you need a metamorphosis.
                            You mean I need to change into someone who knows something about bloody ballet?

                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26440
                              #779
                              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                              changes for the dance. A?
                              I thought we might be back chez Doris with Raymonda and Alexander Glazunov...

                              ... but is it (taking scb's cue) something to do with Kafka?

                              Oh hang on... there's Ovid too... Goehr... didn't old Sandy do something about that?

                              Don't go away.... Talk amongst yourselves for a bit.
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26440
                                #780
                                Damn good programme, Words and Music...

                                So we have:

                                Alexanders:

                                - Scriabin: Vers la flamme

                                - Zemlinsky: The little mermaid

                                - Goehr: Metamorphosis/Dance Op. 36

                                I fank you
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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