Alphabet Associations - II

[Flay]

There's a cornet à pistons in Monsieur Bizet's Carmen....

But not a cor anglais

[Nick Armstrong]

But not a cor anglais

Oh I was thinking it was cornet - hence the Symphonie Fantastique... (Why does anyone play that piece without the solo cornet in the Bal movement - it's so great !!)

Isn't there a cor anglais in just about everything?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Oh I was thinking it was cornet

Me, too.

Would've been a much better answer!

[Flay]

Isn't there a cor anglais in just about everything?

OK it wasn't the best. I've been working these last few days and it's been a rush.

But they're pretty parts for the or anglais that stick in my mind (and I didn't want to mention the dreaded Swan of you know where)

The third I was thinking about was Chabrier's Lamento for Cor anglais & orchestra.

[Nick Armstrong]

the or anglais

How very alternative

[vinteuil]

... and I was so hoping it was going to be a cophicleide!

[Flay]

I cringe when I recall In youth orchestra days playing the cor anglais part in the Berlioz Roman Carnival. It was going swimmingly well (or so I distractedly thought) - until I played an f# instead of natural: a resounding key-changing accident(al) that drew a simultaneous sharp intake of breath from all angles

[Nick Armstrong]

a simultaneous sharp intake of breath from all angles

...and a few Saxons with funny expressions, I'll be bound.

Who's D next?

[Flay]

Oh I was thinking it was cornet - hence the Symphonie Fantastique... (Why does anyone play that piece without the solo cornet in the Bal movement - it's so great !!):

I can only find the third movement for cornet

...and a few Saxons with funny expressions, I'll be bound.

Who's D next?

Indeed! Norman wasn't too impressed either

I award D to cloughie for his Desperately admirable attempts

[cloughie]

Oh I was thinking it was cornet - hence the Symphonie Fantastique... (Why does anyone play that piece without the solo cornet in the Bal movement - it's so great !!)

Isn't there a cor anglais in just about everything?

Cali
I agree with you about the cornet in the Bal - and it seems to be a small minority of performance that include it - one reason why Martinon is top of my list of recordings and Dohnanyi up there too.

[cloughie]

I can only find the third movement for cornet



Indeed! Norman wasn't too impressed either

I award D to cloughie for his Desperately admirable attempts

I almost got to Chabrier whilst compiling a mental list whilst out this afternoon but Flay you led me off the French track by being so insistent on Carnival rather than Carnaval. Meant that Romain was off my list. I'll find a Desperate D, Dreckly.

[Flay]

I confess I've never heard it performed with a cornet

[Flay]

I almost got to Chabrier whilst compiling a mental list whilst out this afternoon but Flay you led me off the French track by being so insistent on Carnival rather than Carnaval. Meant that Romain was off my list. I'll find a Desperate D, Dreckly.

Blame my education, but I'm glad you got the mental exercise. We'd best move swiftly on.

[Nick Armstrong]

Cali
I agree with you about the cornet in the Bal - and it seems to be a small minority of performance that include it - one reason why Martinon is top of my list of recordings and Dohnanyi up there too.

I confess I've never heard it performed with a cornet

Interesting cloughie, don't know either of those, and shall seek them out - as you say, one assumes most performances mystifyingly don't have the cornet - and so it's good to know two more which do.

Colin Davis always seemed to include it - it's not one of my favourite pieces, so I have never gone further than his Amsterdam recording; but as that's not on Youtube, here is the LSO version. The cornet is especially felicitous from 4:00 onwards...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR_JoYdM9xU

... although it comes over better in the airy and perfect acoustic of the Concertgebouw recording

[cloughie]

Interesting cloughie, don't know either of those, and shall seek them out - as you say, one assumes most performances mystifyingly don't have the cornet - and so it's good to know two more which do.

Colin Davis always seemed to include it - it's not one of my favourite pieces, so I have never gone further than his Amsterdam recording; but as that's not on Youtube, here is the LSO version. The cornet is especially felicitous from 4:00 onwards...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR_JoYdM9xU

... although it comes over better in the airy and perfect acoustic of the Concertgebouw recording

When I've an hour or two to spare I'll check out a few and see which deserve the flake!