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  • Flay
    Full Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 5795

    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
    There's a cornet à pistons in Monsieur Bizet's Carmen....
    But not a cor anglais
    Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26523

      Originally posted by Flay View Post
      But not a cor anglais

      Oh I was thinking it was cornet - hence the Symphonie Fantastique... (Why does anyone play that piece without the solo cornet in the Bal movement - it's so great !!)

      Isn't there a cor anglais in just about everything?
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
        Oh I was thinking it was cornet
        Me, too.

        Would've been a much better answer!
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Flay
          Full Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 5795

          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
          Isn't there a cor anglais in just about everything?
          OK it wasn't the best. I've been working these last few days and it's been a rush.

          But they're pretty parts for the or anglais that stick in my mind (and I didn't want to mention the dreaded Swan of you know where)

          The third I was thinking about was Chabrier's Lamento for Cor anglais & orchestra.
          Last edited by Flay; 24-02-16, 16:46. Reason: Gcorrections but not dared to correct the "or anglais!
          Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26523

            Originally posted by Flay View Post
            the or anglais
            How very alternative
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • vinteuil
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12788

              ... and I was so hoping it was going to be a cophicleide!

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              • Flay
                Full Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 5795

                I cringe when I recall In youth orchestra days playing the cor anglais part in the Berlioz Roman Carnival. It was going swimmingly well (or so I distractedly thought) - until I played an f# instead of natural: a resounding key-changing accident(al) that drew a simultaneous sharp intake of breath from all angles
                Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26523

                  Originally posted by Flay View Post
                  a simultaneous sharp intake of breath from all angles
                  ...and a few Saxons with funny expressions, I'll be bound.

                  Who's D next?
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Flay
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 5795

                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post

                    Oh I was thinking it was cornet - hence the Symphonie Fantastique... (Why does anyone play that piece without the solo cornet in the Bal movement - it's so great !!):
                    I can only find the third movement for cornet

                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                    ...and a few Saxons with funny expressions, I'll be bound.

                    Who's D next?
                    Indeed! Norman wasn't too impressed either

                    I award D to cloughie for his Desperately admirable attempts
                    Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                    • cloughie
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22115

                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post

                      Oh I was thinking it was cornet - hence the Symphonie Fantastique... (Why does anyone play that piece without the solo cornet in the Bal movement - it's so great !!)

                      Isn't there a cor anglais in just about everything?
                      Cali
                      I agree with you about the cornet in the Bal - and it seems to be a small minority of performance that include it - one reason why Martinon is top of my list of recordings and Dohnanyi up there too.

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22115

                        Originally posted by Flay View Post
                        I can only find the third movement for cornet



                        Indeed! Norman wasn't too impressed either

                        I award D to cloughie for his Desperately admirable attempts
                        I almost got to Chabrier whilst compiling a mental list whilst out this afternoon but Flay you led me off the French track by being so insistent on Carnival rather than Carnaval. Meant that Romain was off my list. I'll find a Desperate D, Dreckly.

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                        • Flay
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 5795

                          I confess I've never heard it performed with a cornet
                          Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                          • Flay
                            Full Member
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 5795

                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                            I almost got to Chabrier whilst compiling a mental list whilst out this afternoon but Flay you led me off the French track by being so insistent on Carnival rather than Carnaval. Meant that Romain was off my list. I'll find a Desperate D, Dreckly.
                            Blame my education, but I'm glad you got the mental exercise. We'd best move swiftly on.
                            Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26523

                              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                              Cali
                              I agree with you about the cornet in the Bal - and it seems to be a small minority of performance that include it - one reason why Martinon is top of my list of recordings and Dohnanyi up there too.
                              Originally posted by Flay View Post
                              I confess I've never heard it performed with a cornet

                              Interesting cloughie, don't know either of those, and shall seek them out - as you say, one assumes most performances mystifyingly don't have the cornet - and so it's good to know two more which do.

                              Colin Davis always seemed to include it - it's not one of my favourite pieces, so I have never gone further than his Amsterdam recording; but as that's not on Youtube, here is the LSO version. The cornet is especially felicitous from 4:00 onwards...

                              Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


                              ... although it comes over better in the airy and perfect acoustic of the Concertgebouw recording

                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • cloughie
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 22115

                                Originally posted by Caliban View Post

                                Interesting cloughie, don't know either of those, and shall seek them out - as you say, one assumes most performances mystifyingly don't have the cornet - and so it's good to know two more which do.

                                Colin Davis always seemed to include it - it's not one of my favourite pieces, so I have never gone further than his Amsterdam recording; but as that's not on Youtube, here is the LSO version. The cornet is especially felicitous from 4:00 onwards...

                                Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


                                ... although it comes over better in the airy and perfect acoustic of the Concertgebouw recording

                                When I've an hour or two to spare I'll check out a few and see which deserve the flake!

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