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  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
    • 10894

    OK, here we go again with a reasonably seasonal one.
    Perhaps AA - III can start the next time we reach the letter A.

    So, at anton's suggestion, it's an H we're looking for.

    My words were written in 1534, and the tune most associated with them in 1539.
    This tune was subject to variations in 1747, and made even more contrapuntal in 1956.
    Where do I come from?

    PS: Apologies.......date mistyped.
    Last edited by Pulcinella; 11-12-18, 21:56. Reason: PS: Date change: 1534 not 1536 (unhelpful typo!).

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    • subcontrabass
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      • Nov 2010
      • 2780

      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
      OK, here we go again with a reasonably seasonal one.
      Perhaps AA - III can start the next time we reach the letter A.

      So, at anton's suggestion, it's an H we're looking for.

      My words were written in 1536, and the tune most associated with them in 1539.
      This tune was subject to variations in 1747, and made even more contrapuntal in 1956.
      Where do I come from?
      Good heavens above! A new question.

      Are you sure about the first date? I seem to find 1535 as the year of publication, with writing mostly given as 1534 (with a variant of 1531 in one source).

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      • Pulcinella
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        • Feb 2014
        • 10894

        Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
        Good heavens above! A new question.

        Are you sure about the first date? I seem to find 1535 as the year of publication, with writing mostly given as 1534 (with a variant of 1531 in one source).
        Humble apologies.......mistyped. Should have said 1534 (according to Wiki).
        Edit about to be made to original post.


        But I think you know where I'm coming from.

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        • cloughie
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          • Dec 2011
          • 22115

          Von himmel hoch matches all 3 dates.

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          • Pulcinella
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            • Feb 2014
            • 10894

            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
            Von himmel hoch matches all 3 dates.

            Indeed it does.
            Care to expand?

            You might have to fight out the I with scb because of my unhelpful typo.

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            • cloughie
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              • Dec 2011
              • 22115

              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

              Indeed it does.
              Care to expand?

              You might have to fight out the I with scb because of my unhelpful typo.
              1747 Bach, 1956 Britten

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              • Pulcinella
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                • Feb 2014
                • 10894

                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                1747 Bach, 1956 Britten
                Happy with JSB, not so with Britten.
                What do you have in mind?

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                • cloughie
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                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22115

                  Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                  Happy with JSB, not so with Britten.
                  What do you have in mind?
                  Stravinsky 1956 - Britten used it in 1942!

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                  • Pulcinella
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                    • Feb 2014
                    • 10894

                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    Stravinsky 1956 - Britten used it in 1942!
                    What's the Britten work?
                    The chronology of his works I've just looked up gives A ceremony of carols and Hymn to St Cecilia as 1942 compositions, but I'm not aware of the tune being used in either of those works. Happy to be enlightened.

                    Anyway, we're there!

                    Himmel (or Heaven): Vom Himmel hoch da komm ich her.

                    Words and tune attributed to Luther: 1534, 1539.
                    Canonic variations written by JSB in 1747, orchestrated (with additional parts) by Stravinsky in 1956.

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                    • cloughie
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                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22115

                      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                      What's the Britten work?
                      The chronology of his works I've just looked up gives A ceremony of carols and Hymn to St Cecilia as 1942 compositions, but I'm not aware of the tune being used in either of those works. Happy to be enlightened.

                      Anyway, we're there!

                      Himmel (or Heaven): Vom Himmel hoch da komm ich her.

                      Words and tune attributed to Luther: 1534, 1539.
                      Canonic variations written by JSB in 1747, orchestrated (with additional parts) by Stravinsky in 1956.
                      I thought there was a link to Balulalow but I may be have my lines crossed - it was 1548!

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                      • cloughie
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                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22115

                        An I which links to link three Ms.

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                        • Pulcinella
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                          • Feb 2014
                          • 10894

                          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                          I thought there was a link to Balulalow but I may be have my lines crossed - it was 1548!
                          There does indeed seem to be a Balulalow connection, but that was not the association I was looking for.

                          Apologies once more to scb (and any others I might have confused) for putting the wrong date in the original posting.

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                          • antongould
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8780

                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                            An I which links to link three Ms.
                            Bloody 'ell the great man's clues have got shorter .........

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                            • cloughie
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                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22115

                              Originally posted by antongould View Post
                              Bloody 'ell the great man's clues have got shorter .........
                              Yes, but we’re back - where’s Flay?

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                              • antongould
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8780

                                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                                An I which links to link three Ms.
                                Is the I a composer, a composition or something completely different ...... ?????

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