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  • cloughie
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    • Dec 2011
    • 22115

    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post


    We await the full details, and what will probably be a more inspirational next instalment.
    Howells - The London Service - St Pauls, Westminster
    Murrill - Composer and organist who arranged Crown Imperial for organ and wrote a piece called Carillon
    Sumsion - organist - recorded Elgar Organ Sonata in one take in 1965

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    • Pulcinella
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      • Feb 2014
      • 10894

      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
      Howells - The London Service - St Pauls, Westminster
      Murrill - Composer and organist who arranged Crown Imperial for organ and wrote a piece called Carillon
      Sumsion - organist - recorded Elgar Organ Sonata in one take in 1965


      All true, but I think you've missed the general connection that, apart from Carillon, these are all references to settings of the Evening Canticles (Magnificat and Nunc Dimittis).
      Those of Howells for St Paul's and Westminster (two of many that he wrote) you obviously got.
      Sumsion's three are in the keys of G, D, and A.
      Murrill only wrote the one set, in E, but his organ piece makes a splendid closing voluntary.

      Hope not too specialised: I did wonder if I'd be relegated to the Choral Evensong thread on The Choir!

      Now, probe our intelligence with your next poser.

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      • cloughie
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        • Dec 2011
        • 22115

        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post


        All true, but I think you've missed the general connection that, apart from Carillon, these are all references to settings of the Evening Canticles (Magnificat and Nunc Dimittis).
        Those of Howells for St Paul's and Westminster (two of many that he wrote) you obviously got.
        Sumsion's three are in the keys of G, D, and A.
        Murrill only wrote the one set, in E, but his organ piece makes a splendid closing voluntary.

        Hope not too specialised: I did wonder if I'd be relegated to the Choral Evensong thread on The Choir!

        Now, probe our intelligence with your next poser.
        And there was I thinking that I'd done well thinking I deserve a sherbet for getting the Herberts! Tenor or Bass for evensong?

        I will get my thinking cap on!

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        • Pulcinella
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          • Feb 2014
          • 10894

          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
          And there was I thinking that I'd done well thinking I deserve a sherbet for getting the Herberts! Tenor or Bass for evensong?

          I will get my thinking cap on!
          I'm a (second) bass, but the (sacred music) choirs I have sung in (despite two of them being cathedrals and one a college chapel choir) did not have all those in their repertoire (and all three sang only on Sundays too, so there wasn't that much repertoire anyway!).
          Thanks for the reminder that Murrill made the Crown Imperial arrangement; it featured in the recent CE broadcast from Liverpool (with a few extra flourishes according to reports on the thread). Well, if you've got that organ you might as well use it!

          PS: It might not have been Murrill's arrangement after all. I have just dug out my copy of a CfP Organ recital disc with Ian Tracey playing at Liverpool, and it says that the version on that disc is his (Tracey's) arrangement, so perhaps that is the one they use.
          Last edited by Pulcinella; 23-07-16, 14:48. Reason: PS added.

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          • cloughie
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            • Dec 2011
            • 22115

            An I, modest in output, tied the knot for Modest and was critically confused.

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            • Flay
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              • Mar 2007
              • 5795

              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
              An I, modest in output, tied the knot for Modest and was critically confused.
              Mikhail Ippolitov-Ivanov I believe
              Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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              • Flay
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                • Mar 2007
                • 5795

                Ippolitov-Ivanov I completed Modest Mussorgsky's opera The Marriage.

                His birth name was Mikhail Mikhailovich Ivanov; later he added Ippolitov, his mother's maiden name, to distinguish himself from a music critic with a similar surname.

                "...his music is rarely heard today."
                Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                • cloughie
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                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22115

                  Originally posted by Flay View Post
                  Ippolitov-Ivanov I completed Modest Mussorgsky's opera The Marriage.

                  His birth name was Mikhail Mikhailovich Ivanov; later he added Ippolitov, his mother's maiden name, to distinguish himself from a music critic with a similar surname.

                  "...his music is rarely heard today."
                  Bit easy wasn't it? Couldn't have put the solution better Flay. Amongst his rarely heard music today is te rather nice Mtsyry.

                  enJoy setting us the next one.

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                  • Flay
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                    • Mar 2007
                    • 5795

                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    Bit easy wasn't it?
                    No complaints. It was somewhat refreshing to find a clue that I could understand and solve without additional hints (and it gave me the opportunity to read about Mr Modest).

                    Will mine be similarly Judged? We shall see...
                    Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                    • Pulcinella
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                      • Feb 2014
                      • 10894

                      Originally posted by Flay View Post
                      Ippolitov-Ivanov I completed Modest Mussorgsky's opera The Marriage.

                      His birth name was Mikhail Mikhailovich Ivanov; later he added Ippolitov, his mother's maiden name, to distinguish himself from a music critic with a similar surname.

                      "...his music is rarely heard today."
                      What did Ippolitov-Ivanov II complete?


                      Looking at his recorded works on the Presto site, I can't say I'm aware of having heard any of them, but I have seen (and was familiar with) his name, though not the story behind it.

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                      • Flay
                        Full Member
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 5795

                        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                        What did Ippolitov-Ivanov II complete?
                        Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                        • Flay
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 5795

                          Deary me, it's been a busy morning getting nothing done. But we must keep on associating!

                          This J was like nothing on earth larking with Will 9.144 metres down
                          Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                          • edashtav
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                            • Jul 2012
                            • 3668

                            9.144 metres sounds like 30 foot of water where the perceived pressure would be approximately 2 atmospheres. Will could be Shakspeare who wrote Full Fathom Five. A fathom was / is six feet. I know Charles Wood's setting for Choir but there's a much earlier song by Robert Johnson.

                            So, I conjecture that J was Johnson.

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                            • Flay
                              Full Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 5795

                              Originally posted by edashtav View Post
                              So, I conjecture that J was Johnson.
                              Excellent deduction, Ed!

                              Care to serve the coleslaw.... ?
                              Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                              • edashtav
                                Full Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 3668

                                Originally posted by Flay View Post
                                Excellent deduction, Ed!

                                Care to serve the coleslaw.... ?
                                Coleslaw and Sauerkraut are banned from my menus - thank goodness I was never in a Soviet Gulag. I'll do my best within the limits imposed by a busy day- my wife is arriving on a State Visit to my ill mother- just look at the State of the Place!

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