Osama Bin Laden: Dead

[amateur51]

Apparently Saudi Arabia was asked to take the body and understandably refused, so it's government can either confirm or deny that, and have any supporters of Bin Laden yet denied he has been killed? Plenty of time, yet, of course!

Whatever the US says or does will always be wrong according to UK liberals and left-wingers, but I do agree that Obama milking the event to the full, and apparently taking the personal credit for killing OBL, was unseemly to say the least.

Are there American elections due ..?

"Here come the skypilots, believing whatever they're told. I wonder why there was such a rush to 'beatify' the former CEO? "

Exactly the same style of insults scotty, just vomitted from a different perspective. Give it a rest, eh?

[Ferretfancy]

This is a serious matter, I know, but having seen a little bit of TV news, I can't help smiling at the wonders of American intelligence.

Just imagine it here.

Somebody in Downing Street learns that just outside London, say Colchester, there's a rather strange building up the road from the barracks. Nobody knows who lives there, but a bright spark notices that the occupants don't seem to be on the phone or the Internet, and it's got thick walls and a lot of barbed wire. Something fishy? Let's wait for a bit and do nothing in case the local council objects. So they do, for quite a while.

[Lateralthinking1]

This news is to be welcomed. It will make Donald Trump, with his "birtherism" theories, look even more maniacal than he does already and, hopefully, steal the thunder from Sarah Palin. A more stable world requires keeping them out of the White House at all costs.

I have been most impressed by Obama since he became President and continue to be so. It is a pity we don't have anyone of his calibre here. One wonders whether the Cameron and Hague sabre rattling about Libya, including all of the finger wagging at the Americans to get involved, actually put this Bin Laden initiative at risk.

While I am not exactly with the conspiracy theorists, there has always been plenty of the peculiar about 9/11 and the aftermath to give them some validity. Members of the Bush family have never explained precisely their relationship with the Bin Ladens, nor have we ever had a statement from Prince Charles about any past links.

It is surprising that we do not have a photograph yet of a dead Bin Laden before he was buried at sea.

I am rather relieved that I am not commuting into London as I fear there will be reprisals but perhaps the most striking element of the past ten years is just how over-emphasised the risks of terrorism have been. The timing is interesting. It might be that the economics of the past three years to put people well and truly "in their place" have been sufficiently successful so as not to require to the same extent accentuating fear of bogeymen as a means of controlling the population.

[scottycelt]

'They' say there was no phone or internet connection to the building, but there appears to be what looks suspiciously like a mighty big satellite dish attached to one of the walls, according to one of the latest photos of the damaged compound on BBC News.

[vinteuil]

While I am not exactly with the conspiracy theorists, there has always been plenty of the peculiar about ...

Hasn't it dawned on you yet that French Frank is a key CIA operative, and that this entire Board a covert operation designed to distract the Western intelligentsia from what's really going on??

Hasn't it clicked that if you add the names "French Frank" and "Kate Derham" and "Roger Wright" in their Mesopotamian numerics you get the sum total of 666 the Year of the Beast plus 2012 the End of the World in the Mayan Calendar???

[Flosshilde]

Who? The conspiracy mob? You're no doubt right. In any event there is enough here to keep the industry going on overdrive for generations to come. No, the only 'incontrovertible proof' would have been, as ahinton points out, Bin Laden captured alive. With this in mind, I wonder what orders the US special forces were under. As it is, dead men don't talk.

It was reported on The World at One today that a spokesman for the USA intelligence said that the order was to kill.

[Lateralthinking1]

Yes, I had worked all that out vinteuil.

Back in 2001, I advised the powers that be that on a simple arithmetical scale A=1, B=2......Z=26, O+S+A+M+A equals 49 and B+I+N+L+A+D+E+N equals 61.

If you add 49 to 61 you get 110. Separate those figures and you get a 1, a 1 and a 0. Then add to those the last digits of 49 and 61 - that's a 9 and a 1.

So you've got a 1, a 1, a 0, a 9 and a 1. Turn them around and that is 9/11/01. (US style).

Shortly afterwards, I had my door broken down in mysterious circumstances and I was asked out of the blue to join the Masons. Of course, I declined. Never try to be of any help here. It only ever goes against you.

[scottycelt]

If you add 49 to 61 you get 110.

No, not under AV you don't ... :cool2:

[amateur51]

It was reported on The World at One today that a spokesman for the USA intelligence said that the order was to kill.

Like shooting fish in a barrel

[amateur51]

Yes, I had worked all that out vinteuil.

Back in 2001, I advised the powers that be that on a simple arithmetical scale A=1, B=2......Z=26, O+S+A+M+A equals 49 and B+I+N+L+A+D+E+N equals 61.

If you add 49 to 61 you get 110. Separate those figures and you get a 1, a 1 and a 0. Then add to those the last digits of 49 and 61 - that's a 9 and a 1.

So you've got a 1, a 1, a 0, a 9 and a 1. Turn them around and that is 9/11/01.

Shortly afterwards, I had my door broken down in mysterious circumstances and I was asked out of the blue to join the Masons. Of course, I declined. Never try to be of any help here. It only ever goes against you.

The Masons?

Ronnie And Marjorie?

I'm sure we used to play canasta on a no-win, no-dinner basis in the 70s

[Nick Armstrong]

Hasn't it dawned on you yet that French Frank is a key CIA operative, and that this entire Board a covert operation designed to distract the Western intelligentsia from what's really going on??

Hasn't it clicked that if you add the names "French Frank" and "Kate Derham" and "Roger Wright" in their Mesopotamian numerics you get the sum total of 666 the Year of the Beast plus 2012 the End of the World in the Mayan Calendar???

[amateur51]

No, not under AV you don't ... :cool2:

Leave it ... leave it!

[Nick Armstrong]

The Masons?

Ronnie And Marjorie?

I'm sure we used to play canasta on a no-win, no-dinner basis in the 70s

I heard it was no-win, no-something else in the 70s

Course I was still at school, I wouldn't know

[Flosshilde]

It is surprising that we do not have a photograph yet of a dead Bin Laden before he was buried at sea.

Just in case -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake

[Lateralthinking1]

That's the mad establishment for you, jumping to conclusions. In my case, rather than them thinking "this arithmetic probably isn't helpful but it just might be", I believe that they asked "why is anybody doing arithmetic of this kind? - it seems suspicious."

Between 9/11 and December 01, when the break-in happened, two policewomen moved in next door to me. I was at work and came back to find the door of my flat smashed in. They pleaded ignorance about what happened although admitted to having been in. It was inconceivable that they didn't hear anything. Shortly afterwards, they moved out.

All that was taken was a watch worth about two pounds. A taxi-driving guy downstairs who I knew to be a Mason invited me in to recover from the discovery of a break-in. He then insisted that I rang the head of the lodge, or whatever he was called, to join.

As we approached his phone, I noticed that it wasn't a normal household phone. There was a box beside it with a lot of labelled buttons. One said "Glasto" which was downright bizarre. While the guy had no interest at all in Glastonbury, "Glasto" at the time was virtually a nickname for me and yet I had never given him my phone number. I mentioned it to him and he looked awkward, immediately changing the subject.

This was the start of many odd happenings about which I won't go into detail here. Suffice it to say that every time I have tried to post on this thread this afternoon, the internet connection has been repeatedly lost. As for my contributions to the other topics, no problems with the connection at all.

It seems to me that they almost certainly knew about the location of OBL earlier than August last year. As a symbol, he was mostly significant to the west. The ongoing focus on him was needed to justify the dwindling policy of a war on terror and regime change. It has taken some time to rally the rebels in these countries so that the force for change is seen to come from inside them. Now that it is fully underway, there is no need for a symbolic villain.

Of course, they generally hope that people will pour into the streets and leap about in hysterical pleasure. They don't welcome independent thinking, even if it is a bit hit and miss, because it just might inadvertently identify and reveal something significant.