Who said that?

[Beef Oven!]

Here he is with some cows

[Pabmusic]

"Listening to the Fifth Symphony of Ralph Vaughan Williams is like staring at a cow for forty-five minutes."

I don't know anyone who said that about RVW 5.

However, Peter Warlock did write that RVW's style was "like a cow looking over a gate" (but Warlock was no more by the time of the 5th symphony). Constant Lambert is sometimes credited with the "cow+gate" quote, but it was Warlock. Here's something Lambert said about RVW's style (referring to A Pastoral Symphony): " a particular type of grey, reflective, English-landscape mood [that] outweighed the exigencies of symphonic form".

[Beef Oven!]

Very good, but for the bonus point, which work was he re-ordering the notes in?

[Beef Oven!]

I don't know anyone who said that about RVW 5.

However, Peter Warlock did write that RVW's style was "like a cow looking over a gate" (but Warlock was no more by the time of the 5th symphony). Constant Lambert is sometimes credited with the "cow+gate" quote, but it was Warlock. Here's something Lambert said about RVW's style (referring to A Pastoral Symphony): " a particular type of grey, reflective, English-landscape mood [that] outweighed the exigencies of symphonic form".

Actually, it was none of those - it was Philip Heseltine.

[Pabmusic]

Actually, it was none of those - it was Philip Heseltine.

Clever boy.

[Nick Armstrong]

Actually, it was none of those - it was Philip Heseltine.

You can see where Brian Sewell got it from....

[Lat-Literal]

Actually, it was none of those - it was Philip Heseltine.

You can see where Brian Sewell got it from....

So it wasn't Copland then? That's very good news.

[Beef Oven!]

Who was the ignoramus that said "modern music is three farts and a raspberry, orchestrated"?

[Pabmusic]

Who was the ignoramus that said "modern music is three farts and a raspberry, orchestrated"?

Barbirolli.

And - "Eighteenth century music sounds like a Pekingese peeing on a mink rug"?

Or - "It was Mr Western's custom every week, as soon as he was drunk, to hear his daughter play on the harpsichord".

Or - "My music is best understood by children and animals".

[Serial_Apologist]

Barbirolli.

And - "Eighteenth century music sounds like a Pekingese peeing on a mink rug"?

Or - "It was Mr Western's custom every week, as soon as he was drunk, to hear his daughter play on the harpsichord"

Or - "My music is best understood by children and animals".

The last was Erik Satie, I'm pretty certain.

I'm very surprised no one got my #24, given the recent thread controversies on that particular subject.

[ahinton]

The last was Erik Satie, I'm pretty certain.

No, 'twas the Igrigious Igor, I think. Whether or not he was right is quite another matter...

[ahinton]

"Is there such a thing as feminine music? I don't think so. You don't read Shakespeare as a woman or a man, you read him as a human being. I suppose 'masculine' is supposed to mean strong and decisive and 'feminine' weak and charming. But I don't find that necessarily holds true of either sex".

Aspects of this and related subjects have recently been discussed elsewhere in this forum, as you know. I would have said this myself had someone - Susan McClary? - not said it first (wrote he, hedging his bets!)...

[ahinton]

Wrong side of The Pond.

"There is a great man in this country who solved the problem of how to be true to oneself."

Thass Arnie, innit?

[ahinton]

Actually, it was none of those - it was Philip Heseltine.

Or "Philistine", as I have on occasion heard him abbreviated (and quite unfairly, of course)...

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Aspects of this and related subjects have recently been discussed elsewhere in this forum, as you know. I would have said this myself had someone - Susan McClary? - not said it first (wrote he, hedging his bets!)...

I think S_A's quotation is older: possibly Elisabeth Lutyens in a more polite mood than when she said "I'll let you call me a 'woman composer' when you start calling Britten a 'Homosexual' one!"

But I suspect that there's a cunning twist in S_A's puzzle, and it's possibly a bloke: you didn't say it yourself on the relevant Thread, did you? That would be lovely!