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  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    The rot set in with Beethoven

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
      The rot set in with Beethoven
      Britten? (He said quite a few things of this nature.)
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • EdgeleyRob
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12180

        The attitude of foreign to English musicians is unsympathetic, self-opinionated and pedantic. They believe that their tradition is the only one (this is specially true of the Viennese) and that anything that is not in accordance with that tradition is "wrong" and arises from insular ignorance.

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        • EdgeleyRob
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          • Nov 2010
          • 12180

          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          Britten? (He said quite a few things of this nature.)
          It was Britten I believe

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          • ardcarp
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 11102

            Britten? (He said quite a few things of this nature.)
            Yes it was Britten. Today's CotW mentioned Britten's caustic remarks about Henry Wood, Adrian Boult, Malcolm Sargent (maybe we'll forgive him that), Rachmaninov, The Royal College of Music......well, if you can't be outspoken as a young man, when can you?

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            • HighlandDougie
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3106

              Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
              The attitude of foreign to English musicians is unsympathetic, self-opinionated and pedantic. They believe that their tradition is the only one (this is specially true of the Viennese) and that anything that is not in accordance with that tradition is "wrong" and arises from insular ignorance.
              That's R V-W. I had to do a double take - as I thought for about two seconds that it was ER himself who had come up with this trenchant statement. Then I remembered having seen it before. I wonder quite what the VSOO thought of V-W's music when Sir Adrian Boult recorded it with them. And I have an idea that Boult and the VPO might have performed the "Five Variants of Dives and Lazarus"*, but I may simply have dreamt that.

              * Wrong! It was "Job", which, thanks to the VPO's online archive, I now know was performed by Sir Adrian and the VPO at the 1935 Salzburg Festival.
              Last edited by HighlandDougie; 31-01-17, 18:00.

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                That's R V-W. I had to do a double take - as I thought for about two seconds that it was ER himself who had come up with this trenchant statement.
                Swap "seconds" for "minutes" and you have my immediate reaction, too!
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • EdgeleyRob
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12180

                  Yes not guilty,it was that Vaughan Williams wot said it.

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                  • Beef Oven!
                    Ex-member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 18147

                    Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                    The attitude of foreign to English musicians is unsympathetic, self-opinionated and pedantic. They believe that their tradition is the only one (this is specially true of the Viennese) and that anything that is not in accordance with that tradition is "wrong" and arises from insular ignorance.
                    Nigel Farage?

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                    • EdgeleyRob
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12180

                      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                      Nigel Farage?

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37814

                        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                        Nigel Farage?
                        English brewers.

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                        • Richard Barrett
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                          • Jan 2016
                          • 6259

                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          Nigel Farage?
                          "I don’t listen to music, I don’t watch television, I don’t read" - Nigel Farage, March 2015. No further comment required I think. (Though no doubt at least one will be forthcoming.)

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                          • ahinton
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 16123

                            Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                            "I don’t listen to music, I don’t watch television, I don’t read" - Nigel Farage, March 2015. No further comment required I think. (Though no doubt at least one will be forthcoming.)
                            It will indeed. I'd not realised that he'd actually said (or written) that - an even more bizarre statement Thanet seems (OK, coat's already on!). Did he let on what he did with the time that he might otherwise have spent in listening to music, watching television or reading, just out of (non)-curiosity? Still, if he doesn't watch television or read newspapers he'll at least spare himself the unpleasant experience of seeing his mugshots.

                            If participation in the gentle art of listening to music is one that he has so far wilfully eschewed (rather as you imagined that Theresa May would not likely spend her time on anything as joy-giving as listening to music), what particular work recommendations would members make for the purpose of leading him towards the practice of listening? (assuming him to be capable of listening to anything much besides his own raucous voice, which is perhaps quite a long leap of faith in itself)...

                            Over to y'all!...

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                            • Beef Oven!
                              Ex-member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post

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                              • Beef Oven!
                                Ex-member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 18147

                                Talking about Nielsen's Symphony #5, who said ....

                                "One feels at the end that he has arrived, you know, [in a] completely, err, satisfying way - I hesitate to use the word logical because logic and music don't have much to do with each other"

                                Answers on a postcard to someone who cares.

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