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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30205

    #46
    BBC feature points out that Mr C has something in common with the Queen - she also remains silent.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26514

      #47
      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      Gives a whole new meaning to "standing for the National Anthem"!
      Ta-dum!

      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • Barbirollians
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 11661

        #48
        I cannot abide the words or the music but I tend to sing it if it is being sung . The idea ,however, that it shows a lack of respect for anyone if one chooses not to sing a song about a deity in whom you do not believe saving a hereditary monarch whose power and status you regard as an anachronism is unpatriotic or offensive is absurd .

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        • pastoralguy
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7731

          #49
          Originally posted by Tony View Post
          I would absolutely LOVE to see/ hear 'Fairest Isle' replacing our deadly dull, smug and outdated 'National Anthem'.
          Wow! What a coincidence. It just came on as I read your post.

          Spooky, possums.

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          • pastoralguy
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7731

            #50
            Billy Connelly suggested the theme from 'The Archers' as a replacement for GSTQ.

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              #51
              Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
              Billy Connelly suggested the theme from 'The Archers' as a replacement for GSTQ.
              Great music - just keep the lyrics and we're done

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              • ahinton
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 16122

                #52
                Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                Billy Connelly suggested the theme from 'The Archers' as a replacement for GSTQ.
                But, like me, Billy Connolly is a Scot, so it doesn't matter for him in the same way as it might for certain Sassenachs (escecially as Referendum Mk. II now seems to be on its way). Anyway, why he'd have suggested such an idea other than as a wind-up I have less than no idea; the tune is a march called Barwick Green from an orchestral suite entitled My Native Heath by Arthur Wood (1875-1953) and had no words attached to it anyway, so unless someone were to append some, no one would sing it as a National Anthem or as anything else; I have occasionally wondered whether Benjamin Britten had heard it, in view of what sounds rather like a crib from its first notes in his Simple Symphony from around a decade later, but were it not for the use of that march as the sig tune for that soap, Wood would be almost forgotten today (as indeed most of the rest of his work is anyway.

                How that soap's endured into the second decade of this century is beyond me; I wonder if it will continue to do so once the farming industry which has always been its foundation has largely disappeared from Britain as is already happening to dairy farming. Its strapline as an "everyday story of country folk" is inaccurate in that it's only broadcast on six days of each week, but who in any case ARE these "country folk", of whom some apparently have no identifiable accents at all and others speak a kind of BBC Brummerset?

                No - great as Billy Connolly is, I think that he's on a hiding to nothing with that idea!

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                • ahinton
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 16122

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                  Great music - just keep the lyrics and we're done
                  What lyrics? You can't put those of GSTQ to Barwick Green; even the ISIHAC team would struggle to do that in a "one song to the tune of another" round!

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #54
                    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                    What lyrics? You can't put those of GSTQ to Barwick Green; even the ISIHAC team would struggle to do that in a "one song to the tune of another" round!
                    Let God save our gracious Queen
                    Long live noble Queenie
                    On the throne so long she's been
                    She's almost part o'the scen'ry

                    Poor old Charlie
                    He's left to parley
                    (Particularly
                    To weedies)

                    Let us bless the dear old Queen
                    And bugger all the expense.
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • Flosshilde
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7988

                      #55
                      Perhaps BO is referring to these lyrics - "Tum ti tum ti tum ti tum, tum ti tum ti tuumty" etc

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                      • Pabmusic
                        Full Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 5537

                        #56
                        As it's the centenary of WW1, I thought I'd be 'inclusive' and play the German royal anthem, Heil dir im Siegerkranz. Before 1795 it was the royal anthem of Prussia. They gave it up in 1918:

                        Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


                        Trouble with us is that we assume GSQ is our anthem. It's not; it's our royal anthem.

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                        • ardcarp
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11102

                          #57
                          Well I'd like to play the Norwegian National Song for no other reason than its being rather well sung here:

                          National anthem of Norway with lyrics and English subtitles.

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                          • ahinton
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 16122

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                            Trouble with us is that we assume GSQ is our anthem. It's not; it's our royal anthem.
                            All this talk of GSQ and GSOGQ makes me think of GCHQ. Anyway, you're right about this, hence my Fairest Isle suggestion if we must have a National Anthem....
                            Last edited by ahinton; 17-09-15, 08:06.

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                            • Pabmusic
                              Full Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 5537

                              #59
                              Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                              All this talk of GSQ and GSOGQ makes me thinkog GCHQ. Anyway, you're right about this, hence my Fairest Isle suggestion if we must have a National Anthem....
                              And I'd second you. Much as I like Jerusalem, someone would have to muck about with the words. Fairest Isle is perfect. (But they'd make a mock-Victorian hymn of it, and sharpen the 7th! )



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                              Last edited by Pabmusic; 17-09-15, 08:05.

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                              • Mary Chambers
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 1963

                                #60
                                Dryden's text for Fairest Isle isn't exactly suitable for a national anthem. It's an aria sung by Venus in King Arthur. The first verse reads:

                                Fairest isle, all isles excelling,
                                Seat of pleasures and of loves,
                                Venus here will choose her dwelling
                                And forsake her Cyprian groves.
                                Cupid from his fav'rite nation
                                Care and envy will remove,
                                Jealousy that poisons passion,
                                And despair that dies for love.


                                However, we sang another version, the authorship of which I'm not sure of:

                                Fairest isle, all isles excelling,
                                Cradled midst the western seas,
                                Where sweet peace hath made her dwelling,
                                Where she sporteth at her ease.
                                Blessed isle, where gladness reigneth,
                                Where the wand'rer findeth rest,
                                Where the churl alone complaineth,
                                Where the brave and true are blest.


                                As far as I can make out, Alfred Deller sang both versions. I think I once had a recording of version 2.

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