Originally posted by ahinton
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God save the Queen !
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post... aw, go on, remind us - what is our National Flag (if we have one... )?
Of course, it is used as if it's a national flag, and no 'authority' seems to mind, but it's still a long way from being 'official'.
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Originally posted by Pabmusic View PostIf we expect a 'national' flag to be adopted by Parliament or at least approved by the government, then we don't have one. The Union Flag is (apparently) part of the Royal Prerogative, designed originally to identify James' navy (at a time when the monarchies of England and Scotland had been merged, but when the countries had not). George V gave permission for it to be used on government buildings. And that's that.
Of course, it is used as if it's a national flag, and no 'authority' seems to mind, but it's still a long way from being 'official'.
Not even an official written constitution, for goodness sake. And, as has been pointed out before in other places, some very nasty people often flaunt the Union Flag and sing God Save The Queen.
We don't like the state and politicians in general dictating what we should believe and how we should behave. Makes me proud to be British.
God Bless Ma'am & Jeremy Corbyn, I say ... long may there be a place for both.
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Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View PostThere should be a place for both, imo.
I think the actual name of the union jack, can only be used if it's hoisted on a Royal navy ship?
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Originally posted by Pabmusic View PostI would be better to say that, when flown from the jack staff, it's the Union Jack. The jack staff is the small flagpole in the bow of the ship.Don’t cry for me
I go where music was born
J S Bach 1685-1750
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This how it should be done - in Sir David Willcocks' arrangement.
Elgar's version is disappointingly dull:
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Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post...Elgar's version is disappointingly dull:...
I still rather like the Prussian, later Imperial German anthem, Heil dir im Siegerkranz. The Germans abandoned it in 1918.
I know I posted it earlier, but many missed it, I suspect:
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It was also the anthem of Bavaria (Heil, unser Koenig, Heil!), Brunswick, Hanover, Saxony, Weimar, Wurttemburg, Switzerland and Norway. It's still the anthem of Liechtenstein.
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Hm, Das Land Ohne Musik. I'm sure that both most recent HMQs have heard some strange versions in their times and travels but a singing Donkey must Esel-ly be among the most bizarre!! There was that Brian May thing from the roof of BH that must have had our QE wondering....which Queen he meant.
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Originally posted by Gordon View PostHm, Das Land Ohne Musik. I'm sure that both most recent HMQs have heard some strange versions in their times and travels but a singing Donkey must Esel-ly be among the most bizarre!! There was that Brian May thing from the roof of BH that must have had our QE wondering....which Queen he meant.
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Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View PostGordon Jacob's arrangement is good too. I am sure it was similar to the YouTube version?
Mind you, when I wer' a lad, just starting out on a professional career, the ability to busk 'Queen in G' was an essential part of one's skill-set. One of our regional orchestras played the anthem in B flat (military style) for a bit. Any bumptious young player depping there for the first time and who had got too big for their boots in the rehearsal was soon reduced to size as they would fail to warn the person concerned who would thus crash in a minor third out. These days it is rare to play the anthem in a concert and when one does, music is usually provided. On the day that the Queen Mother died Opera North were in Sheffield: a message quickly went round the pit just before the show started - "we will be playing the National Anthem just before curtain up". Some of the younger players just stood in respectful silence as they had never had to busk the anthem before.
Which reminds me that, certainly in Manchester during the 60s and 70s, it was the norm for the horns to blast out what some people called the 'falling 7th' two bars before the end (the notes D, C sharp and C for horns in F so G, F sharp and F concert pitch). This was once described by a critic as a 'signal of bovine distress' but was known by the older Manchester players as the 'Moss Side Ending' (Moss Side being a notorious area in Manchester). I often wondered where this came from. Possibly from the teacher of the old school Manchester players - Otto Paersch - who lived in Moss Side. Does anybody have an answer to this (Tony?)
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