Tennis

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    Originally posted by RichardB View Post
    Given that he's such an influential personality in Serbia, his behaviour over vaccination has been the height of irresponsibility from the start and has no doubt cost lives. So no, I don't think he deserves anyone's sympathy.
    Still, sounds like he got the right forename. With such role models, it is no surprise that Serbia has a somewhat poor record for SARS Cov2 vaccinations.

    Comment

    • RichardB
      Banned
      • Nov 2021
      • 2170

      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
      With such role models, it is no surprise that Serbia has a somewhat poor record for SARS Cov2 vaccinations.
      That is exactly right. Now the top politicians are making this into a "diplomatic incident", and I notice that a FB friend (ex-friend I should now say) posted a request to sign a petition calling for him to be allowed into Australia to play, and for him not to be "treated like a criminal". (So far a little over 5000 people have signed it.) As far as I can see he isn't being treated like a criminal but like someone who has failed to fulfil the entry requirements for the country he's trying to visit. As the Australian authorities have said, he's free to go home whenever he wants.

      Comment

      • Barbirollians
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 11882

        Originally posted by RichardB View Post
        That is exactly right. Now the top politicians are making this into a "diplomatic incident", and I notice that a FB friend (ex-friend I should now say) posted a request to sign a petition calling for him to be allowed into Australia to play, and for him not to be "treated like a criminal". (So far a little over 5000 people have signed it.) As far as I can see he isn't being treated like a criminal but like someone who has failed to fulfil the entry requirements for the country he's trying to visit. As the Australian authorities have said, he's free to go home whenever he wants.
        It is also extraordinary how some of those supporting Djokovic have no trouble with other people seeking to enter Australia or indeed here being treated like criminals when seeking asylum.

        Comment

        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37995

          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
          It is also extraordinary how some of those supporting Djokovic have no trouble with other people seeking to enter Australia or indeed here being treated like criminals when seeking asylum.
          Is he seeking permanent residence in Australia though? To me this issue comes down to six of one, half a dozen of the other, unless, that is, there is something to Djoko's defense that he had had Covid around Christmas and that makes him exempt from vaccination - this, despite what we're told that he in an anti vaxxer?

          Comment

          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22239

            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
            Is he seeking permanent residence in Australia though? To me this issue comes down to six of one, half a dozen of the other, unless, that is, there is something to Djoko's defense that he had had Covid around Christmas and that makes him exempt from vaccination - this, despite what we're told that he in an anti vaxxer?
            But as I understand it his Covid was six months ago which I believe is a long time ago in immunity terms!
            In any case it appears to me that he seems to think that as a top tennis player he can walk over the regulations in cabinet minister style - picked the wrong country didn’t he?

            Comment

            • Eine Alpensinfonie
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 20578

              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
              But as I understand it his Covid was six months ago which I believe is a long time ago in immunity terms!
              The real point is that you have to respect the rules of a country you are entering. Djokovic evidently thinks otherwise

              Comment

              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                But as I understand it his Covid was six months ago which I believe is a long time ago in immunity terms!
                In any case it appears to me that he seems to think that as a top tennis player he can walk over the regulations in cabinet minister style - picked the wrong country didn’t he?
                The record apparently says he has Covid-19 last month, not six months ago.

                Comment

                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22239

                  Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                  The record apparently says he has Covid-19 last month, not six months ago.
                  Yes just heard that on the news so apologies to S_A. …but no doubt the outcome will be the outcome.

                  Comment

                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30652

                    Conclusion from the D Telegraph (free artcicle )

                    'But of course - the real debate is not about natural immunity. It's about the fairness of a country with some of the strictest Covid entry rules in the world granting an exemption to an unvaccinated, wealthy tennis player while many of its own citizens have been prevented from seeing loved ones in other parts of the world - and even other parts of the world.'

                    It also points out that immunity is stronger for a vaccinated person after a breakthrough infection than for a 'fully unvaccinated' person.

                    The issue for Australia is also whether they messed up by suggesting ND was exempt and then changing their mind after he'd arrived in the country. But I'd have thought that for that he may be entitled to financial damages not entry to the country.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

                    Comment

                    • LHC
                      Full Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1576

                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      The record apparently says he has Covid-19 last month, not six months ago.
                      His lawyers are claiming he tested positive for Covid on 16 December, which is well within the 6 month period. However, apparently Australia’s immigration rules state that a person who has had Covid in the last 6 months, but has not also been vaccinated will still be required to quarantine for 2 weeks, as they are not considered to be fully vaccinated.

                      There is also question mark over the statement that he had Covid on 16 December, as social media posts show him attending public events unmasked on 16 and 17 December (when he claims he was positive). This photo taken on 17 December shows him greeting fans unmasked.

                      "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                      Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

                      Comment

                      • Padraig
                        Full Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 4262

                        W0W! Novac has played a sizzling return into the backhand corner just on the line. . . or is it? Hawk Eye we need you.

                        Comment

                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          Originally posted by Padraig View Post
                          W0W! Novac has played a sizzling return into the backhand corner just on the line. . . or is it? Hawk Eye we need you.
                          He may yet be OUT!

                          Comment

                          • Padraig
                            Full Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 4262

                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            He may yet be OUT!
                            Ahem. . . he got out this morning!

                            Comment

                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              Originally posted by Padraig View Post
                              Ahem. . . he got out this morning!
                              Indeed, but there is still a possibility that the Australian national authorities will expel him since previous infection does not, in their legislation, qualify as an exemption criterion. Every news report on the issue that I have heard today has included that proviso. "OUT!" as in out of the country and tournament.

                              Comment

                              • Padraig
                                Full Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 4262

                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                Every news report on the issue that I have heard today has included that proviso. "OUT!" as in out of the country and tournament.
                                He could well be OUT in those senses, since missing OUT on lots of practice while he was IN. Some reports that I have heard give him a good chance of beating those odds. But no matter what, he'll always be Novac.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X