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  • AuntDaisy
    Host
    • Jun 2018
    • 1848

    Michael Spicer - Radio 3 vs. Classic FM

    Not sure I agree with this, but Michael Spicer's post on Twitter on R3 vs CFM is very funny...

    Here's a rough transcript...

    [Car driver listening to Radio 3]
    R3 Welcome to BBC Radio 3 good to have your company.
    In a moment we'll be playing you the first act of Verdi's heartbreaking masterpiece Rigoletto.
    [Driver looks about]
    Based on the play by Victor Hugo, it tells of an outsider - a hunchbacked jester - who struggles to balance the duelling elements of beauty and evil that exist in his life.
    Here Verdi is at the height of his genius discov-
    [Driver looks stressed and switches to Classic FM]
    CFM Welcome back to Classic FM. Here's a tune from that butter advert that you like!
    [Driver smiles and happily drives on...]




    These days, it should probably be:

    [Car driver listening to Radio 3 - an advert for R3Unwind has just finished]
    R3 Here's "Walking the Dog" by Gerry Gershwin, but before that, Mrs. Trellis has messaged us to say how lovely that piece was that we just played, she's not sure what it was because she wasn't really listening, but it was lovely.
    Anyway, back to "Walking the Dog"... Talking of which, my dog, Fluffy, is really odd...
    [Driver smiles and happily drives on... wondering if he's listening to CFM or R3 - the adverts will soon tell him.]
  • hmvman
    Full Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 1150

    #2
    If that's what Michael Spicer thinks R3 is like he clearly hasn't listened to it for a very long time!

    Your scenario is much more true to life, AD.

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    • oddoneout
      Full Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 9411

      #3
      Originally posted by hmvman View Post
      If that's what Michael Spicer thinks R3 is like he clearly hasn't listened to it for a very long time!

      Your scenario is much more true to life, AD.
      Sadly.

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      • LMcD
        Full Member
        • Sep 2017
        • 8854

        #4
        Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
        Not sure I agree with this, but Michael Spicer's post on Twitter on R3 vs CFM is very funny...

        Here's a rough transcript...

        [Car driver listening to Radio 3]
        R3 Welcome to BBC Radio 3 good to have your company.
        In a moment we'll be playing you the first act of Verdi's heartbreaking masterpiece Rigoletto.
        [Driver looks about]
        Based on the play by Victor Hugo, it tells of an outsider - a hunchbacked jester - who struggles to balance the duelling elements of beauty and evil that exist in his life.
        Here Verdi is at the height of his genius discov-
        [Driver looks stressed and switches to Classic FM]
        CFM Welcome back to Classic FM. Here's a tune from that butter advert that you like!
        [Driver smiles and happily drives on...]




        These days, it should probably be:

        [Car driver listening to Radio 3 - an advert for R3Unwind has just finished]
        R3 Here's "Walking the Dog" by Gerry Gershwin, but before that, Mrs. Trellis has messaged us to say how lovely that piece was that we just played, she's not sure what it was because she wasn't really listening, but it was lovely.
        Anyway, back to "Walking the Dog"... Talking of which, my dog, Fluffy, is really odd...
        [Driver smiles and happily drives on... wondering if he's listening to CFM or R3 - the adverts will soon tell him.]
        That's presumably Jack Dee's friend, the famous Mrs Trellis from North Wales?
        It's easy to tell one from t'other - Classic FM has regular advertising breaks 3 times an hour, whereas R3 trailers pop up without warning.

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        • EnemyoftheStoat
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1142

          #5
          When I last listened, R3 had trailers for b****y Soundz every three minutes, in other words after every piece. (They'll be calling everything a song next.)

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          • AuntDaisy
            Host
            • Jun 2018
            • 1848

            #6
            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
            That's presumably Jack Dee's friend, the famous Mrs Trellis from North Wales?
            It's easy to tell one from t'other - Classic FM has regular advertising breaks 3 times an hour, whereas R3 trailers pop up without warning.
            She had Humph first.


            Those Sounds & Unwind & Traitors & Podcasts... ad nauseam... trailers drive me to to off button.

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            • Old Grumpy
              Full Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 3680

              #7
              At least one doesn't get this kind of language on CFM


              Here, 55:00 in:

              Last edited by Old Grumpy; 25-01-25, 12:10.

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37993

                #8
                Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                At least one doesn't get this kind of language on CFM


                Here, 55:00 in:

                https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0...n=share-mobile
                Inserting the F-word at that point didn't exactly add anything to his preceding piano excerpts, did it!

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                • LMcD
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 8854

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

                  Inserting the F-word at that point didn't exactly add anything to his preceding piano excerpts, did it!
                  Hence the warning in the top left-hand corner.

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 7128

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                    At least one doesn't get this kind of language on CFM


                    Here, 55:00 in:

                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0...n=share-mobile
                    Yes I heard that live . Part of a bizarre sequence in which Nigel played unaccompanied the Kreisler Cadenza to the Beethoven V C and , very loudly on the piano , extracts from his latest musical extravaganza. Have to say Nigel was charming in apologising as he always is and Katie handled the whole th8ng very well.

                    If you don’t immediately apologise that can add to problems with OFCOM who have been known to fine broadcasters for this.

                    little known fact : there used to be (in TV at least ) a blacklist of people who had sworn on air live before and had to be handled with care.

                    Bad language used to attract more complaints than anything else except unannounced scheduled changes . Even once went to a meeting where research had been done to rank words in order of offence. All the words were read out by a BBC a person with the poshest voice I’ve ever heard. It was one of the oddest meetings I’ve ever been to. If I remember aright S*** was considered by the Great British Public as offensive as F***. That stimulated a lot of debate …only possible of course because of the unique way the BBC is funded.

                    Now of course F and even C are bandied about endlessly on TV and no one seems to give a F .

                    Seriously though I can think of two people -one a producer the other presenter - who got into very big trouble (in the 90’s) when the two most offensive four letter words slipped out - one on BBC One the other on ITV . Now it would be a mild slap on the wrists if that.

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                    • smittims
                      Full Member
                      • Aug 2022
                      • 4584

                      #11
                      I well recall an episode of Woman's Hour:

                      Interviewer: Just how bullied were you at school?
                      Guest: Well, they used to call me Paki, and ...'
                      Int: (interrupting) I must apologise to our listeners for that offensive expression.
                      Guest : I was only telling you what they said !

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                      • Ein Heldenleben
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 7128

                        #12
                        Originally posted by smittims View Post
                        I well recall an episode of Woman's Hour:

                        Interviewer: Just how bullied were you at school?
                        Guest: Well, they used to call me Paki, and ...'
                        Int: (interrupting) I must apologise to our listeners for that offensive expression.
                        Guest : I was only telling you what they said !
                        The best one - again one I heard live was Peregrine Worstthorne on Nationwide commenting on the Lord Lambton affair - he was the peer who’d had been caught using prostitutes

                        It went something like this :
                        Frank Bough (or some such ). “So Perry what will the Great British Public make of this affair?”

                        PW - “I don’t think the Great British Public give a F***

                        Bough “would you like to apologise for that language?”

                        PW “ Not really - in the circumstances I think the word entirely appropriate.”

                        ….they don’t make em like that any more .

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                        • Serial_Apologist
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37993

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                          The best one - again one I heard live was Peregrine Worstthorne on Nationwide commenting on the Lord Lambton affair - he was the peer who’d had been caught using prostitutes

                          It went something like this :
                          Frank Bough (or some such ). “So Perry what will the Great British Public make of this affair?”

                          PW - “I don’t think the Great British Public give a F***

                          Bough “would you like to apologise for that language?”

                          PW “ Not really - in the circumstances I think the word entirely appropriate.”

                          ….they don’t make em like that any more .
                          Ah yes - Peregrine Falkoff!

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                          • Old Grumpy
                            Full Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 3680

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                            The best one - again one I heard live was Peregrine Worstthorne on Nationwide commenting on the Lord Lambton affair - he was the peer who’d had been caught using prostitutes

                            It went something like this :
                            Frank Bough (or some such ). “So Perry what will the Great British Public make of this affair?”

                            PW - “I don’t think the Great British Public give a F***

                            Bough “would you like to apologise for that language?”

                            PW “ Not really - in the circumstances I think the word entirely appropriate.”

                            ….they don’t make em like that any more .
                            Brilliant!

                            I still think James Naughtie's is the best one ever...



                            ...and very accurate!

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                            • AuntDaisy
                              Host
                              • Jun 2018
                              • 1848

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                              Brilliant!

                              I still think James Naughtie's is the best one ever...



                              ...and very accurate!


                              Miram Margolyes was also quite frank about him.

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