Last word additions to closed thread by 'The Management'

[teamsaint]

there does seem to be an assumption that conservative, safe programming guarantees more ticket sales than more adventurous programming.

I just don't see the evidence of this at the concert halls that I go to. I attend plenty of core rep concerts with fine performers, where attendances are modest, and more adventurous programmes seem to draw healthy audiences.

I don't think the problem is " Knowing what your audience want", but " what can I justify to the bosses if we have poor sales".

The neglect of Arnold, Simpson, Rubbra ,and many others, by our arts leaders is a scandal. It is particularly inexcusable at the Proms, IMO.

probably off topic, but hey, its sunday......

[Pulcinella]

While looking for reading material about Elizabeth Maconchy's 4th quartet, I came upon this passage from " The Power of Robert Simpson".

Page 140 onwards.
So many things seem to resonate from 35 years ago.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=9kl0dBlus9gC&pg=PA143&lpg=PA143&dq=elizabeth+maconchy+and+robert+simpson&source=bl&ots=TiM0iOyy_U&sig=vBtDNZW0VyC-arR1i8wEYQDroXs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=C6OPVf10hLpR9tmD6Ag&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=elizabeth%20maconchy%20and%20robert%20simpson&f=false

or, perhaps listening to the quartet is a better use of the time.

Do you have the boxed set of all the quartets? The booklet has notes written by the composer; admittedly not much.

[teamsaint]

Do you have the boxed set of all the quartets? The booklet has notes written by the composer; admittedly not much.

Yes I do, thanks Pulcers, c/w the notes. I was just casually looking for more, partly from the feeling that the way she wrote the notes put me in mind of Bob Simpson's writing.

What a treasure those quartets are.

On the subject of EM, I would love to know, and have been curious about this for a long time, if anybody knows of or has a recording of her setting of " And Death shall have no dominion".

[Pulcinella]

Yes I do, thanks Pulcers, c/w the notes. I was just casually looking for more, partly from the feeling that the way she wrote the notes put me in mind of Bob Simpson's writing.

What a treasure those quartets are.

On the subject of EM, I would love to know, and have been curious about this for a long time, if anybody knows of or has a recording of her setting of " And Death shall have no dominion".

You probably found this link:

http://www.musicsalesclassical.com/composer/work/8340

Maybe BBM knows about it (see who commissioned it) or someone has a Three Choirs recording (did the BBC broadcast concerts from there in 1969?). Or try contacting someone at Bangor in case their listed performance got recorded.

[Dave2002]

There is a weekend Malcolm Arnold Festival every year:

http://www.malcolmarnoldfestival.com/

... but does any of it get broadcast?

Glock was without doubt the best thing that has happened in this country as far as the broadcast of Musics and Arts from the Western Classical traditions are concerned - and it is noticeable that he was Controller of Music at the time Simpson regards as the BBC's finest (1959 - 72; Simpson resigned in disgust and despair eight years after Glock left).

I may now try to listen to the 2nd and 7th symphonies by Arnold (again?), and see if I can find the three Sinfoniettas mentioned on the festival page. Then I may decide to go to hear them live in Northampton in October. That would still leave quite a lot of music by other British composers which hardly ever gets live performances. Recordings are helpful, but should be encouraging for live performances, not simply as a means of ticking the box, and closing "the case", which may often be the fate of pieces after they have been recorded.

It's not only music by British composers which gets neglected this way, but one has to start somewhere!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

It's not only music by British composers which gets neglected this way, but one has to start somewhere!

[Andrew Slater]

There is a weekend Malcolm Arnold Festival every year:

http://www.malcolmarnoldfestival.com/

... but does any of it get broadcast?

This year (probably because it's the tenth festival) the BBC has agreed for the first time to contribute to and broadcast the Saturday evening concert, which will consist of the Philharmonic Concerto, the John Field Fantasy, and the 7th symphony. The BBC Concert Orchestra will be conducted by Martin Yates, with Peter Donohoe in the Field Fantasy. (A reprise of the programme on Yates' and Donohoe's recent Dutton Epoch CD.)

It's not clear whether the concert will be broadcast live, as the date of the festival is after the announced start date for regular Saturday night opera broadcasts.

The weekend pass for the festival is apparently £15.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Good news - thank you, Andrew.

(And £15 for the whole weekend?! Know any cheapish accommodation nearby?)

[Andrew Slater]

Good news - thank you, Andrew.

(And £15 for the whole weekend?! Know any cheapish accommodation nearby?)

The Northampton Central Travelodge is 5-10 mins walk away and is reasonably cheap. There's an IBIS and also the Park Inn (the latter used by the MA Society) also nearby, but they are a bit more expensive.

(By the way - the weekend pass covers everything except the Sunday evening gala concert, which is at a more 'normal' price.)

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

[teamsaint]

The Arnold festival is a seriously tempting proposition.
The chance to hear one of the symphonies performed by a professional orchestra is rare indeed.

Maybe deserves a thread of its own.

[Tony Halstead]

The Arnold festival is a seriously tempting proposition.
The chance to hear one of the symphonies performed by a professional orchestra is rare indeed.

Maybe deserves a thread of its own.

O for a BAX FESTIVAL and/ or a MOERAN and/ or a RUBBRA Festival..!

[EdgeleyRob]

This year (probably because it's the tenth festival) the BBC has agreed for the first time to contribute to and broadcast the Saturday evening concert, which will consist of the Philharmonic Concerto, the John Field Fantasy, and the 7th symphony. The BBC Concert Orchestra will be conducted by Martin Yates, with Peter Donohoe in the Field Fantasy. (A reprise of the programme on Yates' and Donohoe's recent Dutton Epoch CD.)

It's not clear whether the concert will be broadcast live, as the date of the festival is after the announced start date for regular Saturday night opera broadcasts.

The weekend pass for the festival is apparently £15.

Rejoice.

I must get to this festival one of these years,just impossible at the moment.

[EdgeleyRob]

O for a BAX FESTIVAL and/ or a MOERAN and/ or a RUBBRA Festival..!

If only,or a neglected Brits only Proms maybe.

[P. G. Tipps]

If only,or a neglected Brits only Proms maybe.

You mean for a whole season, ER?!!

Furthermore, wouldn't such bold, excitingly-different planning clearly break current race and equality laws ... ?

In any case I strongly suspect the programme planners would simply search ancestry records and manage to re-define Johannes Brahms as being both 'British' and 'neglected' ...