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  • visualnickmos
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3617

    #46
    Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
    'O, wad some Power the giftie gie us
    To see oursels as others see us!
    It wad frae monie a blunder free us,
    An' foolish notion.'

    Rabbie invariably got it spot on, ahinton!
    If one can make head or tail of what he's on about!

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    • P. G. Tipps
      Full Member
      • Jun 2014
      • 2978

      #47
      Originally posted by doversoul View Post
      Dave, the aim of the forum is clearly stated, and it was our choice to join it. We only use it without contributing to its running. In other words, we simply use the forum where it suits us. If what we want to do does not fit in with the stated aim of this forum, there are plenty of other forums we can join without leaving this forum. I can’t see why you are so keen on discussing, or the idea of discussing politics on this particular forum which has a very specific (narrow) aims/purpose. .
      That's all very well but when one has a 'Platform 3' to discuss any matter not necessarily related to the 'aim of the forum' and indeed a sub-forum dedicated to 'Politics & Current Affairs', which was contributed to on many occasions by the administrator and some hosts themselves, one can hardly blame others from doing the same?

      The problem was not the discussion of controversial real-life issues but the intolerance of a very few ubiquitous regulars who were determined to ridicule and hopefully bully and silence those others who dared to challenge the apparent 'received wisdom' of the Forum.

      Unfortunately it has been the latter who appear to have been most unfairly blamed for the cessation of this facility but, hey, such is life, I suppose!

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #48
        Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
        The problem was not the discussion of controversial real-life issues but the intolerance of a very few ubiquitous regulars who were determined to ridicule and hopefully bully and silence those others who dared to challenge the apparent 'received wisdom' of the Forum.

        Unfortunately it has been the latter who appear to have been most unfairly blamed for the cessation of this facility but, hey, such is life, I suppose!
        'O, wad some Power the giftie gie us
        To see oursels as others see us!
        It wad frae monie a blunder free us,
        An' foolish notion.'

        Rabbie invariably got it spot on, scottychimp.
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Beef Oven!
          Ex-member
          • Sep 2013
          • 18147

          #49
          Originally posted by ahinton View Post
          Excuse me? Not "caught" by anyone, no "game" involved or being played and no relevance in the size of "boys" who are surely not the only kind of people tht might be concerned about the subject matter...

          Mon Dieu!...
          See, that's what happens to clever clogs!

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            #50
            Originally posted by doversoul View Post
            So what are you saying? If you can’t talk about music without separating it from politics, you still have a lot of learning to do.
            Music is, as far as we know, an exclusively human phenomenon. Homo sapiens was rightly been identified by Aristotle as zoon politicon. It is those who would hope to separate music from politics who are in need of learning.

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            • Conchis
              Banned
              • Jun 2014
              • 2396

              #51
              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
              Music is, as far as we know, an exclusively human phenomenon. Homo sapiens was rightly been identified by Aristotle as zoon politicon. It is those who would hope to separate music from politics who are in need of learning.
              Yes: every human activity is inherently political.

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              • P. G. Tipps
                Full Member
                • Jun 2014
                • 2978

                #52
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                'O, wad some Power the giftie gie us
                To see oursels as others see us!
                It wad frae monie a blunder free us,
                An' foolish notion.'

                Rabbie invariably got it spot on, scottychimp.
                Indeed he did ... and, believe it or not, he was referring to you as well as the rest of us!

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                • Flosshilde
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7988

                  #53
                  Could I suggest that this discussion be separated off into a thread of it's own? This one doesn't really seem the right place for it.

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #54
                    Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                    Indeed he did ... and, believe it or not, he was referring to you as well as the rest of us!
                    Indeed he was (I made a similar point in an essay as part of my degree many years ago) ... and, believe it or not, he was referring to you as well as the rest of us.
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                      Yes: every human activity is inherently political.
                      Those activities which are exclusively human, and many which are shared with other animals, but maybe not all.

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Beef Oven!
                        Really? In this forum there have been innumerable discussions about music that have had dick-all to do with politics. doversoul is on the money on this one.

                        As false a syllogism as one might ever come across.

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                        • P. G. Tipps
                          Full Member
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 2978

                          #57
                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          Indeed he was (I made a similar point in an essay as part of my degree many years ago) ... and, believe it or not, he was referring to you as well as the rest of us.
                          Golly, unlike you I was never clever enough to get a degree and therefore couldn't quite grasp that ...

                          Thanks, ferney!

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                          • Beef Oven!
                            Ex-member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 18147

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            As false a syllogism as one might ever come across.
                            Makes perfect sense though (and I wasn't trying for a non-false syllogism).

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                              Makes perfect sense though.
                              There are many aspects of music that can be discussed without direct reference to politics. There are others which can't. An appreciation of the political context within much music has been and is created is often crucial to fully graping its significance.

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                              • Beef Oven!
                                Ex-member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 18147

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                An appreciation of the political context within much music has been and is created is often crucial to fully graping its significance.
                                That's a tautology.

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