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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30518

    Originally posted by LMcD View Post

    It is indeed - can you please enlighten other Forumistas as to the works involved? .(I had 2 by Mahler in mind, either of which is acceptable).
    Bof! Debussy was son of a shopkeeper (Girl with the Yellow hair?) and Schubert (Y = ?) the son of a schoolmaster. I did get Mahler. though :-)
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • LMcD
      Full Member
      • Sep 2017
      • 8695

      Originally posted by french frank View Post

      Bof! Debussy was son of a shopkeeper (Girl with the Yellow hair?) and Schubert (Y = ?) the son of a schoolmaster. I did get Mahler. though :-)
      While we await Dermot's coleslaw, I had a think about Schubert and came up with his Young Nun.

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      • Dermot
        Full Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 119

        Originally posted by LMcD View Post

        It is indeed - can you please enlighten other Forumistas as to the works involved? .(I had 2 by Mahler in mind, either of which is acceptable).
        Mahler: I had in mind Des Knaben Wunderhorn settings which Wiki says, (his) "first genuine settings of Wunderhorn texts, however, are found in the Lieder und Gesänge ('Songs and Airs'), published in 1892 and later renamed by the publisher as Lieder und Gesänge aus der Jugendzeit (Songs and Airs from Days of Youth)."


        Elgar: Wand of Youth suites. This was the way in as I knew Elgar's father had a music shop in Worcester.

        Janacek: Woodwind sextet Mladi (Youth).

        I will have a Z shortly.

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        • vinteuil
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12957

          Originally posted by Dermot View Post

          Mahler: I had in mind Des Knaben Wunderhorn settings which Wiki says, (his) "first genuine settings of Wunderhorn texts, however, are found in the Lieder und Gesänge ('Songs and Airs'), published in 1892 and later renamed by the publisher as Lieder und Gesänge aus der Jugendzeit (Songs and Airs from Days of Youth)."...
          ... and to recommend -



          And of course he has a Youth Orchestra named after him...

          .

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          • Dermot
            Full Member
            • Aug 2013
            • 119

            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

            ... and to recommend -



            And of course he has a Youth Orchestra named after him...

            .
            I only heard Dame Janet live once in the concert hall of the Royal Dublin Society many years ago. Her voice was in its prime and she sang Elgar's Sea Pictures with piano accompaniment. A memorable evening.

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            • Dermot
              Full Member
              • Aug 2013
              • 119

              A Z linking

              Peter the Great

              An opera set in French Flanders in the time of "yesterday, today, and tomorrow".

              A Nobel laureate

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              • LMcD
                Full Member
                • Sep 2017
                • 8695

                Originally posted by Dermot View Post

                Mahler: I had in mind Des Knaben Wunderhorn settings which Wiki says, (his) "first genuine settings of Wunderhorn texts, however, are found in the Lieder und Gesänge ('Songs and Airs'), published in 1892 and later renamed by the publisher as Lieder und Gesänge aus der Jugendzeit (Songs and Airs from Days of Youth)."


                Elgar: Wand of Youth suites. This was the way in as I knew Elgar's father had a music shop in Worcester.

                Janacek: Woodwind sextet Mladi (Youth).

                I will have a Z shortly.
                My other Mahler was 'Von der Jugend', one of the songs in 'Das Lied von der Erde'

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                • AuntDaisy
                  Host
                  • Jun 2018
                  • 1804

                  Originally posted by Dermot View Post
                  A Z linking

                  Peter the Great

                  An opera set in French Flanders in the time of "yesterday, today, and tomorrow".

                  A Nobel laureate
                  Would Lohengrin or Don Carlos fit for the opera?

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                  • vinteuil
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12957

                    Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
                    Would Lohengrin or Don Carlos fit for the opera?
                    ... I had had similar thoughts - but surely both works are concerned with the Flemish-speaking parts of that region

                    .

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                    • Petrushka
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12333

                      Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
                      Would Lohengrin or Don Carlos fit for the opera?
                      I, too, had the same thought.

                      The only Z connection with Peter the Great that comes to mind is Zaandam.
                      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                      • AuntDaisy
                        Host
                        • Jun 2018
                        • 1804

                        This is very tenuous...
                        Zurich?
                        Wagner performed Lohengrin extracts in Zurich (exile meant he missed the premiere.)
                        There are lots of Zurich connected Nobel Laureates.

                        On another Z note, Zanardini did the Italian translation for Verdi's Don Carlos...

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                        • Alain Maréchal
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 1288



                          Peter the Great had worked in Deptford as a Carpenter, and is the title character of Zar und Zimmerman.
                          Berndt Alois Zimmerman wrote Die Soldaten.
                          Bob Dylan was born Zimmerman.

                          I think that is the only occasion on which I have reached anywhere near the answer to one of these questions. Please do not ask me to set one though, my English is not good enough.

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                          • AuntDaisy
                            Host
                            • Jun 2018
                            • 1804

                            Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post

                            Peter the Great had worked in Deptford as a Carpenter, and is the title character of Zar und Zimmerman.
                            Berndt Alois Zimmerman wrote Die Soldaten.
                            Bob Dylan was born Zimmerman.

                            I think that is the only occasion on which I have reached anywhere near the answer to one of these questions. Please do not ask me to set one though, my English is not good enough.
                            Brilliant work Alain

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                            • Dermot
                              Full Member
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 119

                              Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post

                              Peter the Great had worked in Deptford as a Carpenter, and is the title character of Zar und Zimmerman.
                              Berndt Alois Zimmerman wrote Die Soldaten.
                              Bob Dylan was born Zimmerman.

                              I think that is the only occasion on which I have reached anywhere near the answer to one of these questions. Please do not ask me to set one though, my English is not good enough.
                              Well done, Alain, correct in every detail. Dylan's name has only one n in it whereas the others have two.
                              ​​​​​.

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30518

                                People seem to be either keen setters or keen solvers. I confess that after the effort of my first attempt as a setter I wasn't anxious to set out again. I was five sixths there having discovered (possibly, how can one know?) that only one musician has won the Nobel Prize. We may need a volunteer for the Austrian army awfully arrayed ...
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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