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  • vinteuil
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 13011

    Originally posted by LMcD View Post

    May one ask what the 'unfair advantage' was?
    ... I think French Frank was referring to the Frenchness of the clue

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30572

      Originally posted by cloughie View Post

      Variations 1 Dohnanyi Nursery Song 2 Beethoven Diabelli 12 Variations on a Russian Dance 3 Tippett Corelli
      You have the V (so did Aunt Daisy but failed to register it). I like the Tippett Corelli, though not the Michael I had in mind, but you are on the right lines.

      1. we already have Mozart's V: Ah, vous dirai-je, maman, illustrating a childish dilemma.

      2. requires two musicians, one a Russian, the other not, and a devilish connection (not Diabelli) to provide the second V

      3. the third V involves a descent into madness, and the Michael might also possible be Gabriel or Raphael or others You were almost there ...
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • vinteuil
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 13011

        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        Michael might also possible be Gabriel or Raphael or others ...
        ... they sound angelic. One might almost say Archangelic ...


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        • AuntDaisy
          Host
          • Jun 2018
          • 1814

          Originally posted by french frank View Post

          You have the V (so did Aunt Daisy but failed to register it). I like the Tippett Corelli, though not the Michael I had in mind, but you are on the right lines.

          1. we already have Mozart's V: Ah, vous dirai-je, maman, illustrating a childish dilemma.

          2. requires two musicians, one a Russian, the other not, and a devilish connection (not Diabelli) to provide the second V

          3. the third V involves a descent into madness, and the Michael might also possible be Gabriel or Raphael or others You were almost there ...
          "I know nothing" as Manuel would say...

          Rachmaninov Variations on the devilish Paganini for 2?
          Fiery Angel? No variations there??

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30572

            AD and vinteuil on the trail.

            1. Mozart's 12 variations on Ah, vous dirai-je, maman, K 265

            2. is indeed Rachmaninoff's Variations of the Rhapsody on a theme of the devilish Paganini, op 43.

            So we just need a V which sees an archangel descending into madness
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • AuntDaisy
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              • Jun 2018
              • 1814

              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              AD and vinteuil on the trail.

              1. Moazart's 12 variations on Ah, vous dirai-je, mama, K 265

              2. is indeed Rachmaninoff's Variations in the Rhapsody on a theme of the devilish Paganini, op 43.

              So we just need a V which sees an archangel descending into madness
              Jesus, Mary and Joseph and the wee donkey.

              This is fiendish French Frank - well done.

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              • french frank
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                • Feb 2007
                • 30572

                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

                ... I think French Frank was referring to the Frenchness of the clue

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                Yes, and knowing what the folk song was about.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • AuntDaisy
                  Host
                  • Jun 2018
                  • 1814

                  Schumann's Geistervariationen (Ghost Variations) were inspired by spirits & a descent in to madness... Not sure about an Angels.

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30572

                    Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
                    Schumann's Geistervariationen (Ghost Variations) were inspired by spirits & a descent in to madness... Not sure about an Angels.
                    Another good one, but I'm not too sure about an archangel Robert.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • AuntDaisy
                      Host
                      • Jun 2018
                      • 1814

                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      Another good one, but I'm not too sure about an archangel Robert.
                      Bob to his friends

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30572

                        Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
                        Bob to his friends
                        Descent into madness not to be taken too literally. Could have been an ascent, or even a variety turn.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • AuntDaisy
                          Host
                          • Jun 2018
                          • 1814

                          Would madness include Arcangelo Corelli's variations on "La Folia"?

                          That well-known archangel - as vinteuil had already guessed, along with cloughie being very close.
                          Apologies for being dense / slow...
                          Last edited by AuntDaisy; 30-12-24, 19:32.

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30572

                            Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
                            Would madness include Arcangelo Corelli's variations on "La Folia"?
                            Yippee! The three Vs are:

                            1. Mozart, K265: 12 Variations on Ah, vous dirai-je, maman

                            2. Rachmaninoff, op 43, Rhapsody on a theme of Paganini, 24 Variations on Paganini's Caprices.

                            3. Arcangelo Corelli, violin sonata op 5, no 12, 23 Variations on La Folia.

                            Not sure who takes the palm - Aunt Daisy?
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • AuntDaisy
                              Host
                              • Jun 2018
                              • 1814

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              Yippee! The three Vs are:

                              1. Mozart, K265: 12 Variations on Ah, vous dirai-je, maman

                              2. Rachmaninoff, op 43, Rhapsody on a theme of Paganini, 24 Variations on Paganini's Caprices.

                              3. Arcangelo Corelli, violin sonata op 5, no 12, 23 Variations on La Folia.

                              Not sure who takes the palm - Aunt Daisy?
                              Thanks French Frank. I had a lot of help & clues.


                              What W links...

                              Bach's two ungrumpy books.
                              An 1843 amourous opera.
                              Finally, Trevor's Dec. 1984 venue, shared with pop royalty.

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                              • LMcD
                                Full Member
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 8758

                                Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
                                Thanks French Frank. I had a lot of help & clues.


                                What W links...

                                Bach's two ungrumpy books.
                                An 1843 amourous opera.
                                Finally, Trevor's Dec. 1984 venue, shared with pop royalty.
                                The 1843 opera could be Balfe's 'Le Puits d'Amour' ('The Well of Love'), in which case the venue could be Sadler's Wells. The two Bach books would then presumably be the Well-Tempered Clavier Vols. 1 and 2.
                                Last edited by LMcD; 30-12-24, 21:47.

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