Alphabet Associations - III

[french frank]

No to cloughie and no to Petrushka. To ease you in: you're looking for three pieces of music which are linked in some way.

[LMcD]

No to cloughie and no to Petrushka. To ease you in: you're looking for three pieces of music which are linked in some way.

Any Vladimirs involved?

[french frank]

Any Vladimirs involved?

Nope. I may have an unfair advantage with the first one .

[AuntDaisy]

A V linking:

A childish dilemma
A Russian encounter with the devil
Michael's descent into madness, possibly

Rimsky-Korsakov's "Christmas Eve" springs to mind for 2. Or there's Tchaikovsky's "Vakula the Smith", also based on the Gogol short story.

[LMcD]

Rimsky-Korsakov's "Christmas Eve" springs to mind for 2. Or there's Tchaikovsky's "Vakula the Smith", also based on the Gogol short story.

All I can say is that I'm finding this 'V' devilishly difficult.

[french frank]

Rimsky-Korsakov's "Christmas Eve" springs to mind for 2. Or there's Tchaikovsky's "Vakula the Smith", also based on the Gogol short story.

Getting warm...ish. Sticking with this one: a different Russian 'meets' another musician-composer

[LMcD]

Getting warm...ish. Sticking with this one: a different Russian 'meets' another musician-composer

Is the other musician-composer also Russian?

[french frank]

Is the other musician-composer also Russian?

No.

[Petrushka]

May I offer my first? Not too obscure (I see Petrushka taking aim already )

A V linking:

A childish dilemma
A Russian encounter with the devil
Michael's descent into madness, possibly

Ed: 1,2 or 3 clues available if requested!

Is the link Venice? More specifically, operas first performed in Venice?

1: The Turn of the Screw (Britten)
2: The Rake's Progress (Stravinsky)
3: ?

[french frank]

Is the link Venice? More specifically, operas first performed in Venice?

1: The Turn of the Screw (Britten)
2: The Rake's Progress (Stravinsky)
3: ?

Ah, if you'd managed to find a third Venice link I would have risked offering you the crown for a good alternative! But all the hidden elements are musical in some sense: so not vodka, Vladimir or Venice; and none of them have been mentioned yet.

I'll offer a second clue: the 'childish dilemma' relates to a the words/title of what started out as a children's song; and by a total coincidence, the same tune goes with another children's song, in a different language and quite different words (no childish dilemma in the second one but it's the tune which you need).

So the two clues, to 1 and 2, point to two different pieces of music. If this rings no bells (no buried clue there) I'll offer a clue to the third piece of music, possibly connected to a 'Michael'.

[AuntDaisy]

Ah, if you'd managed to find a third Venice link I would have risked offering you the crown for a good alternative! But all the hidden elements are musical in some sense: so not vodka, Vladimir or Venice; and none of them have been mentioned yet.

I'll offer a second clue: the 'childish dilemma' relates to a the words/title of what started out as a children's song; and by a total coincidence, the same tune goes with another children's song, in a different language and quite different words (no childish dilemma in the second one but it's the tune which you need).

So the two clues, to 1 and 2, point to two different pieces of music. If this rings no bells (no buried clue there) I'll offer a clue to the third piece of music, possibly connected to a 'Michael'.

I really thought Petrushka had got it with Venice

Wildly stabbing in the dark... "Baa Baa Black Sheep" & "Twinkle, Twinkle, little star" have the same tune as "Ah vous dirais-je, Maman" (possibly by Bouin) - could that be a "childish dilemma"? Mozart's variations on them...

Would Lysenko (also of Christmas Eve fame) work for "a different Russian 'meets' another musician-composer"?

[vinteuil]

I'll offer a second clue: the 'childish dilemma' relates to a the words/title of what started out as a children's song; and by a total coincidence, the same tune goes with another children's song, in a different language and quite different words (no childish dilemma in the second one but it's the tune which you need).
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...would Ah! Vous dirai-je, maman be the start of a Twinkle?


EDIT curses, aunt daisy just beat me (tho' we cd both be wrong... )

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[french frank]

Wildly stabbing in the dark... "Baa Baa Black Sheep" & "Twinkle, Twinkle, little star" have the same tune as "Ah vous dirais-je, Maman" (possibly by Bouin) - could that be a "childish dilemma"? Mozart's variations on them...

You have the necessary elements to solve the rest (when I said I might have had an unfair advantage, I thought M vinteuil might be on to it as well!)

Yes, the dilemma was that of the blushing young shepherdes on whether or not she should confess to her mother her secret goings-on with the young shepherd Silvandre. Ah, vous dirai-je, maman (and Twinkle, twinkle no dilemma).

[cloughie]

You have the necessary elements to solve the rest (when I said I might have had an unfair advantage, I thought M vinteuil might be on to it as well!)

Yes, the dilemma was that of the blushing young shepherdes on whether or not she should confess to her mother her secret goings-on with the young shepherd Silvandre. Ah, vous dirai-je, maman (and Twinkle, twinkle no dilemma).

Variations 1 Dohnanyi Nursery Song 2 Beethoven Diabelli 12 Variations on a Russian Dance 3 Tippett Corelli

[LMcD]

Variations 1 Dohnanyi Nursery Song 2 Beethoven Diabelli 12 Variations on a Russian Dance 3 Tippett Corelli

May one ask what the 'unfair advantage' was?