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  • MrGongGong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    This (sadly) reminds me of the "good old days"
    and our old chum Simon who had such strong and informed opinions about Stockhausen but had never listened to any of his music.

    Usually when people enthuse about things (writers, composers, scientists, cake makers) they refer to the works produced ?

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    • Flosshilde
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7988

      Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
      crusty old moth-ridden books and wooden shelves ... ?
      More likely to be death-watch beetles. You need to change your pest-control people.

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      • ahinton
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 16122

        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        This (sadly) reminds me of the "good old days"
        and our old chum Simon who had such strong and informed opinions about Stockhausen but had never listened to any of his music.

        Usually when people enthuse about things (writers, composers, scientists, cake makers) they refer to the works produced ?
        That's certainly far from uncommon in my experience. As to Simon, fortunately little more than a distant memory now, I daresay that he'd once trodden in some, though, wouldn't you think?

        Anyway, back to the present. P.G. might perhaps care to have a look at http://www.roger-scruton.com/books.html for prompts on some two score volumes on at least some of which he might do some of us the favour of providing some elucidatory insights as to what he finds especially profound in which of them and why; no need to cover the lot, of course - just a handful of examples will suffice.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          Usually when people enthuse about things (writers, composers, scientists, cake makers) they refer to the works produced ?
          Only if they know them. I suspect that somebody who describes an epithet as an "adjective" isn't exactly the sort of advocate that Scruton would hope for.
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • jean
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7100

            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            ...somebody who describes an epithet as an "adjective"...
            (Sharp intake of breath) Who? Where?

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            • P. G. Tipps
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              • Jun 2014
              • 2978

              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              Only if they know them. I suspect that somebody who describes an epithet as an "adjective" isn't exactly the sort of advocate that Scruton would hope for.
              An epithet is an adjective (or phrase). Didn't you know?

              As for asking how many books one has on one's shelves that is a bit like asking how many pieces of coal one uses to heat one's study.

              Things have moved on a bit in recent times. Sir Roger's views on many matters are easily available online. Mr Barrett seemed to find them without too much trouble!

              Maybe Mr GG would like to advise us how many party manifestos he has on his shelves before pontificating on the subject of politics?

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                An epithet is an adjective (or phrase).
                Ahh - bless.
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • ahinton
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 16122

                  Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                  As for asking how many books one has on one's shelves that is a bit like asking how many pieces of coal one uses to heat one's study.
                  I just knew you used coal! (hence my recent comment elsewhere).

                  Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                  Things have moved on a bit in recent times.
                  Not in Tippland, methinks...

                  Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                  Sir Roger's views on many matters are easily available online. Mr Barrett seemed to find them without too much trouble!

                  Maybe Mr GG would like to advise us how many party manifestos he has on his shelves before pontificating on the subject of politics?
                  Point neatly missed yet again; the concern here is not so much to know how many of Prof. Scruton's books you have, or may have had, on your shelves but (assuming that you've read such as you do have) which do you find the most profound and for what specific reasons. Are Michael and Howard your middle names, by chance?

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                  • P. G. Tipps
                    Full Member
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 2978

                    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                    That's certainly far from uncommon in my experience. As to Simon, fortunately little more than a distant memory now, I daresay that he'd once trodden in some, though, wouldn't you think?

                    Anyway, back to the present. P.G. might perhaps care to have a look at http://www.roger-scruton.com/books.html for prompts on some two score volumes on at least some of which he might do some of us the favour of providing some elucidatory insights as to what he finds especially profound in which of them and why; no need to cover the lot, of course - just a handful of examples will suffice.
                    I'll give you just one, ahinton ... I suspect that will be enough of a struggle for the time being.

                    “The important thing is to acquire intellectual discipline, to learn how to distinguish genuine questions from spurious phantoms.”

                    How true, Sir Roger!

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                    • P. G. Tipps
                      Full Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 2978

                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      Ahh - bless.
                      No problem, always willing to help!

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                      • ahinton
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 16122

                        Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                        I'll give you just one, ahinton ... I suspect that will be enough of a struggle for the time being.

                        “The important thing is to acquire intellectual discipline, to learn how to distinguish genuine questions from spurious phantoms.”
                        You said nothing about answering the former, though; did he?

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                        • jean
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7100

                          Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                          An epithet is an adjective (or phrase).
                          Or (more accurately) an epithet is sometimes a single adjective, sometimes an adjectival phrase.

                          My question remains - who/what prompted the accusation?

                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          Ahh - bless.
                          This is no answer.

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                          • ahinton
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 16122

                            Might it be wise and welcome, especially if PG's answers are unlikely to extend beyond the partial one that he has given, to return to the broader aspect of the topic rather than concentrating on one particular knighthood?

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26524

                              The following caught my eye...

                              Sir George Benjamin, Dame Sarah Connolly... and Sir Mark Elder and Sir Paul McCartney made Companions of Honour.

                              (And Dames Julie Walters, June Whitfield and Olivia de Havilland (100 years young ); and Sir Billy Connolly)
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • teamsaint
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 25202

                                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                                The following caught my eye...

                                Sir George Benjamin, Dame Sarah Connolly... and Sir Mark Elder and Sir Paul McCartney made Companions of Honour.

                                (And Dames Julie Walters, June Whitfield and Olivia de Havilland (100 years young ); and Sir Billy Connolly)
                                What, er, actually IS a companion of honour?

                                Anyway, I see that Steven " Davo" Davis, has himself a nice shiny gong.
                                Although I bet he'd have preferred a League Cup winners medal.
                                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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