Queen's Birthday Honours

[ahinton]

I'm sure Richard will be delighted to hear that!

Do you suppose that David will?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

To begin with, I would question
a) where "the borders of the natural world" are,
b) who imposed them when, how and why (or how might they otherwsie have materialised) and
c) with what they border.

d) how much rent they pay.

[ahinton]

Oh meet scotty part-way, MrGG.

It's "profound b*llocks".

It doesn't obviously come across to me as "wisdom", I'm sure that it's not meant to be "b*llocks", "profound" or otherwise and I'm not trying to suggest that it isn't intended to mean something; I am simply uncertain as to what that "something" might be.

[ahinton]

d) how much rent they pay.

Eh? To whom?(!) And how in any case does a "border" pay rent in the first place?

The perplexity already occasioned by my reading Prof. Scruton's assertion is now exacerbated by your additional parameter here!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Eh? To whom?(!)

That would be (e).

And how in any case does a "border" pay rent in the first place?

In most Guest Houses, by cheque - although I'm sure some landlords/ladies are equally happy to take cash.

The perplexity already occasioned by my reading Prof. Scruton's assertion is now exacerbated by your additional parameter here!

You mean I've actually created a pun that's flummoxed you?!

[P. G. Tipps]

The perplexity already occasioned by my reading Prof. Scruton's assertion is now exacerbated by your additional parameter here!

Roughly translated, you mean you haven't really the faintest idea what any of this is supposed to be about, ahinton... ?

[Richard Barrett]

Oh meet scotty part-way, MrGG.

It's "profound b*llocks".

So the closest we've got so far to an explanation of what this seeming platitudinous gibberish means is "it's simply a statement of profound wisdom".

[P. G. Tipps]

So the closest we've got so far to an explanation of what this seeming platitudinous gibberish means is "it's simply a statement of profound wisdom".

Hey, S_A introduced that adjective to this discussion. Copycat!

Or do you Marxists term it 'solidarity'?

[Richard Barrett]

Hey, S_A introduced that adjective to this discussion.

Good for him. This isn't a poetry competition, and as far as I can see the word "platitudinous" describes the phrase in question very well, as indeed it does your supposed explanation. Can you do any better?

[P. G. Tipps]

Good for him. This isn't a poetry competition, and as far as I can see the word "platitudinous" describes the phrase in question very well, as indeed it does your supposed explanation. Can you do any better?

As far as I'm concerned it isn't a competition of any kind but it clearly is for you ...

Relax ... the world is not full of evil, platidunous thinkers like Sir Roger Scruton... maybe it might be a much more civilised and tolerant place if it were?

[Richard Barrett]

Relax ... the world is not full of evil, platidunous thinkers like Sir Roger Scruton... maybe it might be a much more civilised and tolerant place if it were?

Nobody described him as "evil" (and surely that word is more appropriate to describe acts rather than people). Anyway: "Music addresses us from beyond the borders of the natural world" must be an aphorism that you find particularly meaningful but you seem unwilling for some reason to share that meaning with anyone else.

[P. G. Tipps]

Nobody described him as "evil" (and surely that word is more appropriate to describe acts rather than people). Anyway: "Music addresses us from beyond the borders of the natural world" must be an aphorism that you find particularly meaningful but you seem unwilling for some reason to share that meaning with anyone else.

Well, forgive me, but I do have a distinct sense that Sir Roger's poltical views do have a real influence on his status regarding anything else on this forum?

If you believe there is nothing beyond the natural world I can see what you are about but that has not been my experience in listening to music, I'm afraid. We just see and hear things differently, it seems.

You clearly don't understand Scruton's philosophy and there is no discredit in that.

Similarly, I cannot for the life of me understand yours, but I don't beat myself up over it.

Vive La Difference, Comrade!

[MrGongGong]

You clearly don't understand Scruton's philosophy and there is no discredit in that.

How many of his books do you have on your shelves ?

[P. G. Tipps]

How many of his books do you have on your shelves ?

Shelves are for old-fashioned anarchists and socialists, Mr GG!

Some of us entered the digital age yonks ago ...

[Richard Barrett]

You clearly don't understand Scruton's philosophy

Why is that so clear? And why is it so difficult for you to explain a sentence of ten words if you understand it so well?