Queen's Birthday Honours

[french frank]

in the way that (I would imagine) a BAFTA may be more significant to an actor than a CBE, I could imagine that a Gramophone Award or Honorary DMus might mean more to a musician than a "state" award (do they still give out honorary DMusies ?)

Could be true. Doctorates other than PhDs are given to academics and non-academics for 'a body of work' e.g. a D.Litt for published work. I believe Andy Kershaw's doctorate was a D. Mus??? That could be wrong?

[french frank]

I'm talking about the 1970s here - I'm sure such attitudes would be in the minority in the Bristol of today.

In any case, I'm not sure that that would influence the Powers That Be in doshing out the honours

[Serial_Apologist]

In any case, I'm not sure that that would influence the Powers That Be in doshing out the honours

Natch!

[subcontrabass]

"For services to Composing and Crossing Musical Genres"

Do I detect a slight whiff of snobbishness on this board?

I was merely quoting the official citation for the award.

[Serial_Apologist]

I was merely quoting the official citation for the award.

Inferences, eh? Who'd be without them...

[MrGongGong]

Maybe we could start a list of those we feel have been neglected?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Maybe we could start a list of those we feel have been neglected?

Thing is, is () that we aren't told who has been offered a bauble and shown Ms Williams' great good sense, and who, deserving of public award, hasn't been offered one. There are several composers whose Music I believe brings far, far more credit and kudos to the Nation than the new knights - some of them have contributed to this Forum. I presume they wouldn't wish their names to be sullied with such tawdry relics of imperialism.





(What? Err, no; again, not this year.)

[MrGongGong]

I presume they wouldn't wish their names to be sullied with such tawdry relics of imperialism.

Sir Richard?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Sir Richard?

[teamsaint]

so it won't be three gongs for a while then.......

[ahinton]

Well, he's also from Swansea, so that could be a start...

Anyway, to VodkaDilc's question about whether Sir J McM's a better composer than M-A Turnage CBE, one might respond by asking whether Colin Matthews OBE (why only that when composers usually get awarded CBEs?) is a better composer than David Matthews who has no state honours at all? - or whether some bright spark has decided that the awarding of gongs to more than one composer called Matthews might be seen as some kind of nepotistic favouritism?...

[ahinton]

Maybe we could start a list of those we feel have been neglected?

OK but, if we do, shouldn't we include in such a list speculations as to whether each of them would accept or reject a gong?

[BBMmk2]

I see that a few Tory donors received an honour. I do think that the politics innuendae does get rather abused.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I see that a few Tory donors received an honour. I do think that the politics innuendae does get rather abused.

He's sending state secrets to the Russians - I'm sure he is!

[french frank]

so it won't be three gongs for a while then.......

How could people have ignored that?