A love letter to Radio 3

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  • Nick Armstrong
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 26516

    A love letter to Radio 3

    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

  • gradus
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 5601

    #2
    Perhaps 'Joint Best...' along with R4.

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    • antongould
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 8775

      #3
      Another one of your aliases eh Rumpole …..gave the game away when you mentioned listening with your late night spliff ……

      of course I agree with every word ……. as I am sure will many others hereabouts …..

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      • cloughie
        Full Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 22110

        #4
        So many good points there. I don’t agree with all of it but in the scale of things maybe for 2023 we are perhaps more fortunate than we sometimes think about what Radio 3 brings us. ‘On’ and ‘Off’ buttons are always there for our convenience!

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37563

          #5
          Well... nearly....

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          • Old Grumpy
            Full Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 3594

            #6
            Originally posted by gradus View Post
            Perhaps 'Joint Best...' along with R4.

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            • Old Grumpy
              Full Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 3594

              #7
              Originally posted by antongould View Post

              of course I agree with every word ……. as I am sure will many others hereabouts …..
              Indeed!

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              • eighthobstruction
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 6426

                #8
                ....all that passing on, in the first paragraphs (on the left hand side no doubt me Lord) made me a bit peckish, and when I came back to the text I thought,I, I thought I, I thought I.....um....it's ok i'll finish it later....
                Last edited by eighthobstruction; 06-09-23, 17:18.
                bong ching

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                • smittims
                  Full Member
                  • Aug 2022
                  • 4046

                  #9
                  If we criticise R3 so much it's because it matters. I don't suppose many would bother to criticise Radio 1. However good R3 is, and it is very good, theres no room for complacency; quality is under threat.

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                  • RichardB
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2021
                    • 2170

                    #10
                    Thanks Nick, I enjoyed reading that. I think R3 still compares fairly well to equivalent stations elsewhere in Europe - its Dutch counterpart, which I have the car radio tuned to, is not at all dissimilar, although they do have frequent "blind listening" programmes which I find highly diverting and which are a trick R3 seems to be missing - there was a feature the other day on Die Schöne Müllerin where my favourite turned out to be a recording by Ian Bostridge whose work I had previously not liked at all. I do wish R3 was more committed to the less flavour-of-the-month aspects of 20th and 21st century music - for example, with the best will in the world, I can't see anything in the music of Florence Price (as opposed to plenty of other African-American composers like George Lewis, Julius Eastman, Anthony Braxton or Olly Wilson). I still listen to it whenever I'm in the UK though. (And often when I'm not.)

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30213

                      #11
                      I agree with a lot of the analysis, but am perplexed by the conclusion that R3 is 'in a golden age of rude health​'. Admittedly, he begins with 'I think', indicating a recognition that his conclusion is entirely subjective. It means no more than 'I like it because this is just the kind of thing I like'. It is not "true", however many people agree with it!

                      I don't agree with George Bernard Shaw's "the majority [is] always wrong​" but he did preface it with "The minority is sometimes right" - which I do agree with. Though in this case 'the majority' does NOT think that R3 is in a golden age of rude health. They don't think anything about it at all.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26516

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RichardB View Post
                        …for example, with the best will in the world, I can't see anything in the music of Florence Price (as opposed to plenty of other African-American composers….)
                        I’m glad it’s not just me - I’ve never been able to see the inclusion of so much of her stuff as anything more than a ‘tick box’ exercise… (and I go out of my way to avoid it).

                        As opposed likewise to the work of plenty of other women composers - I’d say that my principal debt to R3 in recent years has been to open my ears to the music of Louise Farrenc, Charlotte Sohy, Doreen Carwithen, Hélène de Montgeroult, Mel Bonis etc etc
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • RichardB
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2021
                          • 2170

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                          I’m glad it’s not just me
                          Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of good reasons why her work should be given an airing and her important place in music history acknowledged. There's more to music than what it sounds like, after all, and if the box being ticked has "do something to redress the imbalance cause by the long history of racism in the classical music world, and create fertile ground for the emergence of future more diverse generations of creative musicians" then it does need to be ticked. It does seem on the other hand that next to the box is written something more like "look as if you're doing something". It would be a much better idea to have a greater diversity of programmers and producers at Radio 3 than the present lot choosing what they think they ought to be programming, however good their intentions.

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30213

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RichardB View Post
                            There's more to music than what it sounds like, after all
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26516

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RichardB View Post
                              Don't get me wrong…
                              Yes points taken.

                              I still don’t mind if I never hear a note of Florence’s music again…
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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