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  • subcontrabass
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    • Nov 2010
    • 2780

    Music in school

    An interesting different approach: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32381815
  • greenilex
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    • Nov 2010
    • 1626

    #2
    Makes complete sense. But difficult to imagine in London, even in the more receptive boroughs... Music Platform does an excellent job with opera.

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    • MrGongGong
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      • Nov 2010
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      #3
      This did the rounds of several music education groups a couple of weeks ago
      Some interesting things

      There are some similar things in the UK but not on such a permanent basis

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30791

        #4
        One lesson the BBC could learn with profit - to go out to the new audience, not sit at home trying to think up new inducements to get them to visit.
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • MrGongGong
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          • Nov 2010
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          #5
          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          One lesson the BBC could learn with profit - to go out to the new audience, not sit at home trying to think up new inducements to get them to visit.
          I'm saying nowt (for a change)


          (apart from that the BBC Orchestras already do.....)

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          • french frank
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            • Feb 2007
            • 30791

            #6
            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
            (apart from that the BBC Orchestras already do.....)
            Which I know, and no criticism of that. But the Bremen experience seems altogether - not exactly ambitious because it was accidental: it was going to live with the young people that was so important.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • MrGongGong
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              • Nov 2010
              • 18357

              #7
              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              Which I know, and no criticism of that. But the Bremen experience seems altogether - not exactly ambitious because it was accidental: it was going to live with the young people that was so important.
              Indeed

              I don't think that folks in the UK would go for anything like that though.
              We can't let anything get in the way of league tables, SATs or "important" subjects now , can we ?

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              • french frank
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                • Feb 2007
                • 30791

                #8
                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                We can't let anything get in the way of league tables, SATs or "important" subjects now , can we ?
                "Next month, the pupils who started at the school at the same time as the orchestra will sit their final exams. There is optimism because the number of pupils leaving school with the lowest qualifications has plummeted and the number staying on to take the Abitur exam at the end of secondary school has risen sharply."
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • MrGongGong
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  "Next month, the pupils who started at the school at the same time as the orchestra will sit their final exams. There is optimism because the number of pupils leaving school with the lowest qualifications has plummeted and the number staying on to take the Abitur exam at the end of secondary school has risen sharply."
                  We know about how music affects educational performance in other areas BUT who in the UK is bothered? (apart from those of us working in music and the arts)
                  I know you don't want politics BUT who in the last few weeks has even mentioned education LET ALONE music???????

                  I always thought that hanging out with musicians would make me more intelligent

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    We know about how music affects educational performance in other areas BUT who in the UK is bothered? (apart from those of us working in music and the arts)
                    I know you don't want politics BUT who in the last few weeks has even mentioned education LET ALONE music???????

                    I always thought that hanging out with musicians would make me more intelligent
                    I tried raising this very issue when the Prime Minister played down music as a sort of also ran option. My message was removed.

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20585

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post

                      I always thought that hanging out with musicians would make me more intelligent
                      In my experience, it just makes you more competitive.

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                      • MrGongGong
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 18357

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        In my experience, it just makes you more competitive.
                        You've been hanging out with the wrong musicians matey

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                        • vinteuil
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post

                          I always thought that hanging out with musicians would make me more intelligent
                          ... I found that hanging out with musicians made me more drunk.

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #14
                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            ... I found that hanging out with musicians made me more drunk.
                            You've been hanging around with the right Musicians, matey!
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20585

                              #15
                              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                              ... I found that hanging out with musicians made me more drunk.
                              There is a drinking culture amongst many musicians. Are they drowning their sorrows, trying to scrape a living on perilously low pay, or are they just overgrown music students?

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