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  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    St George's day

    A HAPPY ST GEORGE'S DAY TO YOU ALL!

    Now, I think this should be a public holiday. Yes?
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750
  • ahinton
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 16123

    #2
    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
    A HAPPY ST GEORGE'S DAY TO YOU ALL!

    Now, I think this should be a public holiday. Yes?
    Where? In England only? If across UK, then no, unless Saints Andrew, David and Patrick are treated likewise, which I think somewhat unlikely in our current austerity climate, don;t you?!...

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 20576

      #3
      Talking of dragons, I notice that J.K.Rowling refers to Welsh Green dragons, whereas the Welsh Dragon's are always red. She gets is right with Hebridean Blacks though.

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      • Beef Oven!
        Ex-member
        • Sep 2013
        • 18147

        #4
        Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
        A HAPPY ST GEORGE'S DAY TO YOU ALL!

        Now, I think this should be a public holiday. Yes?
        Yes! In England and for anyone else, it's entirely a matter for them decide on!

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        • P. G. Tipps
          Full Member
          • Jun 2014
          • 2978

          #5
          Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
          A HAPPY ST GEORGE'S DAY TO YOU ALL!

          Now, I think this should be a public holiday. Yes?
          Far too many public holidays already, Bbm ... keep the lazy b*****s hard at it on zero contracts, I say!

          Happy St George's Day to you too ... are you a direct descendant of the great man, by any chance?

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          • ahinton
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 16123

            #6
            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
            Yes! In England and for anyone else, it's entirely a matter for them decide on!
            But is it - yet, I mean? Do the administrations of the other three constituent parts of UK have the power autonomoulsy to introduce public holidays for themselves alone? If so, mightn't their actually doing so risk leading to independence referenda in each and the possible break-up of UK that some fear could rise once again to the surface should SNP do exceptionally well in the forthcoming General Election?

            Anyway, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...sh-things.html, in righting a few misconceptions about St. George and other so-called "English" things, prompts me to ponder upon whether Greece should have a public holiday on St. George's day, given that, like the Duke of the Scottish capital and the Elgin marbles, he was supposedly Greek, albeit born in Syria where the introduction of a public holiday on his day would likely go largely unnoticed and serve little obvious purpose right now...

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            • ahinton
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 16123

              #7
              Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
              Far too many public holidays already, Bbm ... keep the lazy b*****s hard at it on zero contracts, I say!
              Ah, yes - it's those "hard working families" again!...

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              • visualnickmos
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3615

                #8
                Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                Ah, yes - it's those "hard working families" again!...
                Yep - keep 'em at it. Someone has to finance the corporate fatcats' lifestyle.... (as if the government letting them off paying their tax isn't enough)

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                • Beef Oven!
                  Ex-member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                  But is it - yet, I mean? Do the administrations of the other three constituent parts of UK have the power autonomoulsy to introduce public holidays for themselves alone? If so, mightn't their actually doing so risk leading to independence referenda in each and the possible break-up of UK that some fear could rise once again to the surface should SNP do exceptionally well in the forthcoming General Election?

                  Anyway, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...sh-things.html, in righting a few misconceptions about St. George and other so-called "English" things, prompts me to ponder upon whether Greece should have a public holiday on St. George's day, given that, like the Duke of the Scottish capital and the Elgin marbles, he was supposedly Greek, albeit born in Syria where the introduction of a public holiday on his day would likely go largely unnoticed and serve little obvious purpose right now...
                  St George is a very English phenomenon, no misconceptions at all! All things can be traced back to bacteria, in the final analysis. Laibach don't believe in originality.

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                  • visualnickmos
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3615

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    St George is a very English phenomenon,
                    I've always thought this rather odd, as he almost certainly was not 'English' as if such a concept of nationality existed way back.....

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                    • Beef Oven!
                      Ex-member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      #11
                      Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                      I've always thought this rather odd, as he almost certainly was not 'English' as if such a concept of nationality existed way back.....
                      It's a civic thing, not based on race or nationality. Just for England and the Englush.

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                      • subcontrabass
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 2780

                        #12
                        Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                        I've always thought this rather odd, as he almost certainly was not 'English' as if such a concept of nationality existed way back.....
                        Why do we not go back to the original patron saint of England, Edmund the Martyr? He was English (and died fighting against European migrants ).

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                        • ahinton
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 16123

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          St George is a very English phenomenon
                          But an imposed one from certain English factions, surely, given that he was of Greek descent and born in Syria? But that said, what do you think about the possible risk that each of the four constituent parts of UK might raise the spectre of break-up by autonomous acts such as bringing in public holdiays for and in their own respective areas alone?

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                          • ahinton
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 16123

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                            It's a civic thing, not based on race or nationality. Just for England and the Englush.
                            But why and how do you suppose this came about other than an apparently arbitrary adoption of St. George by the English?
                            Last edited by ahinton; 23-04-15, 16:05.

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                            • Beef Oven!
                              Ex-member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                              But why and how do you suppose this came about other than an apparently arbirary adoption of St. George by the English?
                              It's irrelevant.

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