Did he really mean that - minimum wages?

[MrGongGong]

How about: http://vote-2012.proboards.com/board...al-uk-politics ? I haven't read any of the discussions, so you may have to be more disciplined than here!

(2015 seems already to be up to p 181 )

I'm not sure they will get the jokes about equal temperament (@ 442)

[Bryn]

I'm not sure they will get the jokes about equal temperament (@ 442)

Oh, not just intonation then?

[Dave2002]

My memory is failing. What I had thought was mean temperament turns out to be meantone temperament. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_temperament

[ahinton]

I didn't 'sanction' it - I have better things to do than read every single thread on the forum.

By that I meant that you did not see fit to curtail or move it.

The message is: Please, as on many other forums, no politics.

As I implied, it seems difficult to discuss this particular thread topic without getting into the realms of politics, so is what you're saying (sorry to sound like my compatriot Jim Naughtie!) that threads such as this one that are on overtly political subjects and cannot therefore be discussed without reference to politics have no place on this forum?

[MrGongGong]

My memory is failing. What I had thought was mean temperament turns out to be meantone temperament.

Can't you read

NO politics means you can't accuse Tone of being Mean

[ahinton]

Can't you read

NO politics means you can't accuse Tone of being Mean

Nor can "just"ice be discussed, since both laws and judicial systems are created and (purportedly) maintained by Polly Titians; likewise, equality is often a political issue.

[Serial_Apologist]

No, amost certainly not, but this isn't otherwise much different in principle, is it?

I think that what might strike some people as the most offensively divisive aspect of this proposal as it currently seems to stand is that it favours housing association tenants and discriminates against tenants of private landlords when, after all, they're all tenants; this is just one way in which, once again, the entire thing has not been thought through.

Tories supposedly disapprove of unduly interfering government. As such, government has no business to encourage or indeed discourage anyone from trying to buy their own home; likewise, it has no business to favour one group of tenants over another in trying to do the former, not least because no single group of tenants is any more or less deserving than another. The business of a government - especially one in which Tories are the majority party - is NOT to try to tell people how they should live; I'd have thought that most if not all Tories already knew that!

Most of your post #22 is very much to the point here. For me, however, it's not so much "the policy of extending RTB to housing association tenants" itself that's so flawed as the discounts being offered - at consequential cost to the taxpayer that you mention - to such tenants for taking it up; it is far from clear what good that is supposed to do anyone other than those tenants who wish to take full advantage of the policy by being able to make a profit out of their housing arrangements funded by the taxpayer. Furthermore, the mere offering of bribes in the form of discounts cannot alone be guaranteed to make those properties affordable for all tenants who are being encouraged to buy them; the policy smacks of yet further divisiveness arising from the risk that those tenants for whom it is simply inconvenient to take it up might come to be regarded by others - quite unreasonably - as some kind of second-class citizens. Again, it's not the business of government to coerce people onto a property ladder that might not necessarily suit their needs and their lives.

If I may say so, I have always felt that you have a touching sense of trust in some imagined good faith attaching to governmental institutions, including those serving in them, ahinton. Has it never occurred to you that governments are as much in hoc to particular sectors of society as those they accordingly serve? Or am I overlooking some double-intended irony in the absense of emoticons indicative of such, following the above-quoted?

[MrGongGong]

Is this a marketing pitch from a firm of opticians?

(if not I'm making an appointment right away)

[Dave2002]

Nor can "just"ice be discussed, since both laws and judicial systems are created and (purportedly) maintained by Polly Titians; likewise, equality is often a political issue.

Never mind - I'm feeling sanguine about this stuff. Back to temperaments.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_tonality

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._2_(Nielsen)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87AQsWeUjCc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

One learns new things most days - now progressive tonality.

Exit, pursued by a bear.

[Richard Barrett]

Is this a marketing pitch from a firm of opticians?

(if not I'm making an appointment right away)

[P. G. Tipps]

The news appears to be spreading fast about this recently-discovered masterpiece ...

http://www.locatetv.com/tv/kent-nagano-classical-masterpieces/season-1/8122766

I've tried Amazon for a CD but no luck ... must be sold out already, I suppose.

[ahinton]

If I may say so, I have always felt that you have a touching sense of trust in some imagined good faith attaching to governmental institutions, including those serving in them, ahinton.

Then you are, if I may say so, profoundly mistaken!

Has it never occurred to you that governments are as much in hoc to particular sectors of society as those they accordingly serve?

Of course! But that's not an excuse for the kinds of thing under discussion here. I stand by what I wrote which you quote above, but that doesn't mean that I place any kind of trust in institutional politics! My expectations and what should be rarely concur.

[ahinton]

The news appears to be spreading fast about this recently-discovered masterpiece ...

http://www.locatetv.com/tv/kent-nagano-classical-masterpieces/season-1/8122766

I've tried Amazon for a CD but no luck ... must be sold out already, I suppose.

Indeed; they probably only manufactured 64 of them...

[Richard Barrett]

The news appears to be spreading fast about this recently-discovered masterpiece ...

Ah yes, Symphony no.64, "Die Hochtrabende".

[Flosshilde]

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