Still lots of work for the new DG to do....

[Nick Armstrong]

... they'd given the job to the work experience

[Richard Tarleton]

Yes.
Having the assumption that somehow "classical" music is more "mature" or even "serious" than other forms of music just makes some (SOME) of it's enthusiasts sound ridiculous.

Mr GG, is it too much to expect them to put up the right photo, not any old photo of an old bloke (no disrespect to Sir A, but I daresay that's what it looked like to the poster of the photo, who clearly hadn't the faintest idea who either of them was)? Which is what this thread started out being about? Or does it really not matter?

[mercia]

they've got their Nikisch in a twist

[MrGongGong]

Mr GG, is it too much to expect them to put up the right photo, not any old photo of an old bloke (no disrespect to Sir A, but I daresay that's what it looked like to the poster of the photo, who clearly hadn't the faintest idea who either of them was)? Which is what this thread started out being about? Or does it really not matter?

No, it's not too much at all
But its sometimes too easy to read too much into a simple mistake
I see similar ones all the time about other musics

[Nick Armstrong]

But its sometimes too easy to read too much into a simple mistake

And even easier to shrug and say Who cares?

After all it's only a publicly-funded national institution presenting a specialist arts service under the terms of a Trust.

What the hell - do what you like and no one bother to check.



Get a grip, 2Gongs.

[Flay]

they've got their Nikisch in a twist

Indeed: I certainly have!

Sadly there are more important things to worry about just now in the world. A terrible tragedy.

[MrGongGong]

And even easier to shrug and say Who cares?

I didn't do that.

I was only commenting on the use of the word "serious"

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I didn't do that.
I was only commenting on the use of the word "serious"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G3b65VU3L4

[french frank]

Not the whole "serious music" nonsense again

It's not nonsense if you read what is being said. It doesn't imply that other kinds of music aren't serious, merely that 'classical music' is serious, and is taken seriously by those for whom it is precious. Which seems to exclude you ...

Given your own contributions here, I begin to wonder whether anything on Radio 3 pre-1945 holds any interest for you at all. That's fine: to each his own.

[doversoul1]

Yes.
Having the assumption that somehow "classical" music is more "mature" or even "serious" than other forms of music just makes some (SOME) of it's enthusiasts sound ridiculous.

(I was avoiding this again http://ebooks.cambridge.org/chapter....0511627309A010 but it's there for those who need it)

That’s obviously your assumption. Relax and read Flay’s posts again. And if you are to post a link, find something more relevant. Seriousness is perception, not a fact.

[MrGongGong]

It's not nonsense if you read what is being said. It doesn't imply that other kinds of music aren't serious, merely that 'classical music' is serious, and is taken seriously by those for whom it is precious. Which seems to exclude you ...
.

Well that's YOUR interpretation

ALL music could be said to be "serious"
I just find it a ridiculous word to use thassorl

As you were

[MrGongGong]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G3b65VU3L4

[Serial_Apologist]

This all reminds me of Keith Tippett taking exception to the observation by an interviewer that "You perform and write serious music as well as jazz, don't you?" To which Keith replied that he considered the jazz that he played as in every way as serious as all the other stuff.

Someone once wrote a book about a jazz musician and titled it, "As Serious As Your Life", I believe.

Thinking about this (for a change) it's surely the commitment that is the serious bit: it wouldn't exclude humour in the music, art etc; cf. Poulenc.

[P. G. Tipps]

Mr GongGong, if I may be so bold in making a positive suggestion, Oxford Dictionaries might be of some assistance to you here.

It states a common and recognised use of the word 'serious' is as follows:

Of music, literature, or other art forms) requiring or meriting deep reflection:

'he bridges the gap between serious and popular music.'

So there you have it!

[Serial_Apologist]

Mr GongGong, if I may be so bold in making a positive suggestion, Oxford Dictionaries might be of some assistance to you here.

It states a common and recognised use of the word 'serious' is as follows:

Of music, literature, or other art forms) requiring or meriting deep reflection:

'he bridges the gap between serious and popular music.'

So there you have it!

Not many on here take you seriously when you're being serious! Why have a separate "artistic" category of seriousness? Pah!