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  • Beef Oven!
    Ex-member
    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
    The press is certainly free if you own one of the half-dozen companies that completely dominate it. It's the best democracy money can buy.
    Easy to say from your safe European home.

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    • LeMartinPecheur
      Full Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 4717

      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
      Easy to say from your safe European home.
      Is it me or is that a complete non sequitur??
      I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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      • Beef Oven!
        Ex-member
        • Sep 2013
        • 18147

        Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
        Is it me or is that a complete non sequitur??
        'Safe European Home' the first track off The Clash's second album.

        Joe Strummer and Mick Jones were sent to Jamaica to write reggae songs for their next album. Their stay was a scary experience and caused them to reflect on their environment back in the UK.

        Great band, great song, underrated album.

        And the non sequitur comes free, so don't worry.

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        • jean
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7100

          I wondered that, but he may be using European inclusively rather than to refer to the EU he's so unenamoured of.

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          • Beef Oven!
            Ex-member
            • Sep 2013
            • 18147

            Originally posted by jean View Post
            I wondered that, but he may be using European inclusively rather than to refer to the EU he's so unenamoured with.
            Why do you assume that I am male?

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            • jean
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7100

              No woman could consistently write such nonsense.

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              • P. G. Tipps
                Full Member
                • Jun 2014
                • 2978

                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                One does wonder what the actual difference might be between a 'purge' and 'execution' in. N. Korea's self-advertised 'workers' democracy'. An anti-aircraft gun does seem something of an "overkill" in swiftly despatching a single human life, but it might not seem that far-fetched given the country's very recent history.

                Maybe he was 'purged' by only being shot by a hail of bullets or even more mercifully given hard labour for life? Who knows? I'm sure the Workers' State's thoroughly democratic channels will soon reveal the truth.

                However, the multi-medalled military gentleman does seem to have suddenly disappeared from view like most of his former senior colleagues before him. The mystery could easily be resolved by his appearance in public alongside a smiling Kim, triumphantly informing the world he has simply been retired on full state pension?

                Now that would be a story!

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                • Beef Oven!
                  Ex-member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  Originally posted by jean View Post
                  No woman could consistently write such nonsense.
                  There was no need for that.

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                  • Richard Barrett

                    Originally posted by jean View Post
                    No woman could consistently write such nonsense.


                    As for this "safe European home": safe from what?

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                    • Beef Oven!
                      Ex-member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                      Sexism is almost as funny as racism, don't you find?

                      As for this "safe European home": safe from what?
                      Ask The Clash.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30257

                        I have this odd feeling that more than the political outlook in the UK is going downhill …
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • jean
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7100

                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          There was no need for that.
                          O reason not the need!

                          It was an open goal - who could have resisted?

                          (But I am truly sorry. Not quite to the extent of deleting my post, though.)

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                          • MrGongGong
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

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                            • gradus
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5606

                              cf The Stones of Shad, Brookside c 1995

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                              • MrGongGong
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 18357

                                More nonsense comes out today
                                It's a real relief we live in a democracy where these idiots don't have any influence

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