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  • Alison
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 6431

    #46
    Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
    Certainly not; he's a useful, energetic news-gatherer, summariser and commentator on the music scene and intelligent enough to give an interesting talk.
    But he's also, as someone once said, 'frequently trivial'

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    • Flosshilde
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      • Nov 2010
      • 7988

      #47
      Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
      intelligent enough to give an interesting talk.
      Why do I feel that what Zuchini really wanted to say was "intelligent enough to have a go at the FoR3 Forum"?

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      • cloughie
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        • Dec 2011
        • 22000

        #48
        Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
        Why do I feel that what Zuchini really wanted to say was "intelligent enough to have a go at the FoR3 Forum"?
        But then a zucchini is a plant!

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 29544

          #49
          Originally posted by Alison View Post
          But he's also, as someone once said, 'frequently trivial'
          And mistaken.

          For years the critic Norman Lebrecht bestrode the classical music world inspiring fear, loathing and respect in those whose careers he could push out of joint with a few acerbic words from his pen or over the airwaves on his Radio 3 programme.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • MrGongGong
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            #50
            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            OOOPS

            So I guess it's time to take this "outside"

            OXOBoy VS Norm ?

            in a Billy Jenkins "Big Fight" style

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            • amateur51

              #51
              Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
              Why do I feel that what Zuchini really wanted to say was "intelligent enough to have a go at the FoR3 Forum"?

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              • amateur51

                #52
                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                But then a zucchini is a plant!



                A plant that is often stuffed too

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                • Beef Oven!
                  Ex-member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
                  Certainly not; he's a useful, energetic news-gatherer, summariser and commentator on the music scene and intelligent enough to give an interesting talk.
                  Egg wetter free. I first came across him when I took out his just published 'Maestro Myth' book from my local library. In the early 90s you could still just about expect to find new books like that.

                  It was a very interesting read, but I felt that his political/cultural views got in the way a bit. I have bought most of his books.

                  He is always very interesting and adds value to 'our world'.

                  If he suddenly disappeared, he'd be sorely missed.

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #54
                    If one already knows even a little about any particular topic on which he chooses to comment, his noisy dilettante essence is soon revealed.

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                    • Beef Oven!
                      Ex-member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      If one already knows even a little about any particular topic on which he chooses to comment, his noisy dilettante essence is soon revealed.
                      I don't think he claims to be an expert on all the things he writes about. He has an interesting and accessible style, with a bit of up-front provocation. Since he isn't going to change, I'd rather have him, than not.

                      Edit: Now you've tidied your post up, I would add that his 'Maestro Myth' would be a worthwhile read whether you know a lot about the subject, or a little.

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                      • amateur51

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post

                        If he suddenly disappeared, he'd be sorely missed.
                        Rather like a migraine headache when it stops?

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 29544

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          If he suddenly disappeared, he'd be sorely missed.
                          He would certainly be missed.

                          It would worry me if I were unsure whether what I was reading was factually accurate, whether in a book (Maestros, Masterpieces & Madness - neatly described as 'pulped fiction') or news http://properdiscord.com/2013/01/24/...pick-with-you/, regardless of how entertaining.
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • Beef Oven!
                            Ex-member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 18147

                            #58
                            Originally posted by french frank View Post
                            He would certainly be missed.

                            It would worry me if I were unsure whether what I was reading was factually accurate, whether in a book (Maestros, Masterpieces & Madness - neatly described as 'pulped fiction') or news http://properdiscord.com/2013/01/24/...pick-with-you/, regardless of how entertaining.
                            Lebrecht deliberately over-steps the mark. We know that.

                            Sometimes, things will be as per the item in the link you give. But he's otherwise thought provoking and stimulating.

                            IMV, if Lebrecht is approached knowingly, (it doesn't take long to work out where he's going on a topic), with your caveat, then I really can't see why people shouldn't embrace him. He's very interesting and entertaining.

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                            • Alison
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6431

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              If one already knows even a little about any particular topic on which he chooses to comment, his noisy dilettante essence is soon revealed.
                              Oh Bryn, that is quite beautifully put. Message of the year old bean.

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