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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37636

    It was bucketing down at 11 pm as we left The Vortex in Dalston last night, and we had to make our way back to the Overground walking into a full gale. So it was surprising to find the sky completely clear on arrival at Crystal Palace, with not even a scrap of cloud sub-illuminated from the lights of London. 4 degrees Celsius, I estimated. I wonder how many share my near-ability to tell what air temperature it is. On getting home I checked my outside thermometer, and it showed bang on 4 degrees C. I find it more difficult the further outside our usual temperature range it happens to be. Anothing below say minus 3 C just feels bloody cold!

    Brummie Simon's weather analysis is interesting right now. Apparently for some time we have had to our west an area of colder than normal Atlantic waters, stretching across to Canada. To the south of that, stretching right down the eastern US seaboard, is a large area of warmer than normal waters. Simon says this latter is helping maintain the huge high pressure area that is keeping a westerly type of weather regime going on this side of the Atlantic. What he doesn't mention is that what accounts for the area of cold Atlantic water to the east of Canada is that it is being kept cold by the exceptionally cold air that has been coming off the American continent ever since the beginning of the year - people may have seen the frozen Niagara Falls and Hudson River - and this in turn is feeding the huge temperature differences that are stoking up deeper than usual Atlantic depressions, thus accounting for how windy this winter has turned out to be. Normally one finds high pressure dominating over the North Pole in the winter half of the year, surrounded by circulating low pressure systems, but the pattern now seems to have reversed. As yet, nobody seems to have come up with an explanation of why we find this huge area of extremely cold air over Canada, and for the second year running, too.

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    • mercia
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 8920

      according to my local Sussex news website there will be a partial (80%) solar eclipse at about 9:30am on 20th March is this correct ? where will it be 100% ? (some wag will say "on the sun")
      Last edited by mercia; 24-02-15, 12:28.

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      • mangerton
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3346

        Originally posted by mercia View Post
        according to my local Sussex news website there will be a partial (80%) solar eclipse at about 9:30am on 20th March is this correct ? where will it be 100% ? (some wag will say "on the sun")
        On the sun is of course correct, but if that's too far, go north. More information here.

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        • vinteuil
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12798

          Originally posted by mangerton View Post
          On the sun is of course correct, but if that's too far, go north. More information here.
          ... thanks for flagging this up, merckx, and for the further details, mangerton.

          Providentially, we are flying up to Aberdeen that very morning to visit Mme V's son - and shd arrive just in time for a good sighting. If the weather permits

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          • Anna

            According to the online Daily Wail just now:

            A solar eclipse is set to block out nearly 90 per cent of sunlight across parts of Europe next month - and it will be the biggest event of its kind in 16 years. On 20 March, the moon's orbit will see it travel in front of the sun casting a shadow over Earth.

            The eclipse will see up to 84 per cent of the sun covered in London and around 94 per cent in Glasgow, Aberdeen and Edinburgh.

            Meanwhile, electricity system operators have warned the eclipse poses a serious risk of blackouts all over Europe as the continent increasingly relies on solar power.


            I saw the total eclipse of (think it was) 1999 - it was a bit spooky for a very short while.

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26524

              Originally posted by mangerton View Post
              More information here.
              "Countdown to totality"

              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • teamsaint
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 25202

                Originally posted by Anna View Post
                According to the online Daily Wail just now:

                A solar eclipse is set to block out nearly 90 per cent of sunlight across parts of Europe next month - and it will be the biggest event of its kind in 16 years. On 20 March, the moon's orbit will see it travel in front of the sun casting a shadow over Earth.

                The eclipse will see up to 84 per cent of the sun covered in London and around 94 per cent in Glasgow, Aberdeen and Edinburgh.

                Meanwhile, electricity system operators have warned the eclipse poses a serious risk of blackouts all over Europe as the continent increasingly relies on solar power.


                I saw the total eclipse of (think it was) 1999 - it was a bit spooky for a very short while.
                wasn't that one particularly good in Wales?

                except I was on business in Penarth that day, IIRC, and failed to see anything of interest at all.

                Perhaps because it was so dark ?!
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • Anna

                  Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                  wasn't that one particularly good in Wales?
                  I think it probably was - we climbed up onto the highest hill and sat and waited - but of course it didn't get pitchy-black - and the world didn't end. So we came back down the hill again ....

                  Oh, and the Met Office are going on strike shortly so I'm really glad S_A is on hand to be our resident Weather Guru! Loved his explanation upthread about the cold!

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26524

                    I remember seeing that one in Hyde Park - there was a definite eerie twilight, about 11.30am iirc...
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Anna

                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      I remember seeing that one in Hyde Park - there was a definite eerie twilight, about 11.30am iirc...
                      Yes, an eerie twilight zone around that time or midday .... good wasn't it, but not earth shattering? But did you expect more - perhaps visions of Angels or the hand of God coming through the sunbeams when it was all over (like those old Victorian illustrations), telling you it was alright to be just a teeny bit scared?

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                      • BBMmk2
                        Late Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        Rather cold!! Brr!
                        Don’t cry for me
                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          Yes - I had a (successful) job interview that morning, so witnessed the eclipse in the centre of Bradford. "Eerie" twilight is exactly right.
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26524

                            Originally posted by Anna View Post
                            Yes, an eerie twilight zone around that time or midday .... good wasn't it, but not earth shattering? But did you expect more - perhaps visions of Angels or the hand of God coming through the sunbeams when it was all over (like those old Victorian illustrations), telling you it was alright to be just a teeny bit scared?
                            No in fact I expected bugger all as it was a cloudy morning. But Lo! the clouds did part at the moment critique, and we saw Sister Moon taking a dirty great chunk out of Brother Sun.

                            I took a couple of photos, heaven knows where they are... but they looked a lot like this (also taken in central London).

                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • mangerton
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3346

                              I saw the 1999 eclipse in Anstruther, I remember. It was cloudy, but, as they did for Caliban, the clouds parted so we did see something of the eclipse.

                              I also had vague memories of seeing a solar eclipse while at primary school in Edinburgh. Google is my friend, and I now see this eclipse occurred on Friday 2nd October 1959. In those far off, innocent days, we were told to bring several photographic negatives to look through to see the eclipse. Elfin safety was then not even in its infancy, but I can still see.

                              From the mangertonian store of useless info: I also had a recollection of a general election around that time, and in fact it took place the following Thursday the 8th. Supermac was re-elected.

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                              • BBMmk2
                                Late Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20908

                                Seems to be milder today, thankfully!
                                Don’t cry for me
                                I go where music was born

                                J S Bach 1685-1750

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