Stormy Weather

[Serial_Apologist]

I've been raking leaves ..... and more to do tomorrow

It's said in Zen that raking up leaves can be a pathway to Enlightenment.

(It's funny how one can never find the reference when one needs it!)

[antongould]

I am told that recognised centre of weather forecasting excellence the Daily Express says the worst winter for a century will begin in November. Can S_A and/or the Sage of Birmingham confirm this?

Got that right so far then!!

I have never in all my life seen weather like it - we will reach December this "winter" in the frozen North without any sign of a frost. Perhaps we will suffer in weeks to come?

[doversoul1]

It's said in Zen that raking up leaves can be a pathway to Enlightenment.

(It's funny how one can never find the reference when one needs it!)

I don’t think they worry about reference in Zen (in this case). It’s knowing the saying that matters. However, you need a broom and not a rake to get on that pathway. Raking isn’t as meditative as sweeping, I suppose.

As for the weather, are we going to pay for it in winter? I am still picking raspberries.

[BBMmk2]

Been having a great weekend. Weather lovely, went to Lewes. Paid a visit to Harvey's of Lewes's brewery shop(!!) :), bought some beer ofcourse. Ouit and about today, and a big of fog to start off with, but soon the sun came out! :)

[Serial_Apologist]

I paid a visit to the Crystal Palace Museum this afternoon. My first visit since moving here almost exactly 10 years ago, and well worth it. Unfortunately it closed at 3 pm, giving me only enough time for a brief taster, but it was well worth the 15 minutes, with friendly volunteers as guides, and I shall definitely return.

Colder weather is on the way, commencing on Tuesday, and expected to last about a fortnight, according to "Brummie Simon" - but it should be mainly dry.

[Anna]

I don’t think they worry about reference in Zen (in this case). It’s knowing the saying that matters. However, you need a broom and not a rake to get on that pathway. Raking isn’t as meditative as sweeping, I suppose.

Aha! But I do have a lovely besom as well as a rake!! Handcrafted using his own birch twigs and gifted to me by a neighbour. It's lovely and very efficient.

Whilst I was busy outside I thought I heard the sound of raindrops - but it was dry leaves from the top of the oak slowing dropping and dislodging more leaves in a steady pitter-patter - quite a Zen moment (or maybe a John Cage moment?)

Ontopic: After the thick mist disappeared, which took a long time with very interesting shape shifting of the landscape, the sun came out, not a puff of wind, and a high of 13.4° - but it's getting chillier now. Still only had one thick frost so far, lots of flowers and some buds still on the fuchsias and geraniums.

[Nick Armstrong]

I do have a lovely besom

[Richard Tarleton]

quite a Zen moment (or maybe a John Cage moment?)

Or Thoreau, even

[Serial_Apologist]

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

It's said in Zen that raking up leaves can be a pathway to Enlightenment.

(It's funny how one can never find the reference when one needs it!)

After a long and arduous journey, a young Japanese man arrived deep in a forest where the teacher of his choice was living in a small house he had made. When the student arrived, the teacher was sweeping up fallen leaves. Greeting his master, the young man received no greeting in return. And to all his questions, there were no replies. Realizing there was nothing he could do to get the teacher's attention, the student went to another part of the same forest and built himself a house. Years later, when he was sweeping up fallen leaves, he was enlightened. He then dropped everything, ran through the forest to his teacher and said "Thank you."

(John CAGE; Silence, page 85.)




This second time, the teacher hadn't got his i-Pod in and replied "Who are you?"

[cloughie]

After a long and arduous journey, a young Japanese man arrived deep in a forest where the teacher of his choice was living in a small house he had made. When the student arrived, the teacher was sweeping up fallen leaves. Greeting his master, the young man received no greeting in return. And to all his questions, there were no replies. Realizing there was nothing he could do to get the teacher's attention, the student went to another part of the same forest and built himself a house. Years later, when he was sweeping up fallen leaves, he was enlightened. He then dropped everything, ran through the forest to his teacher and said "Thank you."

(John CAGE; Silence, page 85.)




This second time, the teacher hadn't got his i-Pod in and replied "Who are you?"

A few years ago when gathering up leaves on my front drive an elderly passer-by said to me 'You'll not win' and you know he was absolutely right.

[BBMmk2]

Certainly become colder today?

[Serial_Apologist]

After a long and arduous journey, a young Japanese man arrived deep in a forest where the teacher of his choice was living in a small house he had made. When the student arrived, the teacher was sweeping up fallen leaves. Greeting his master, the young man received no greeting in return. And to all his questions, there were no replies. Realizing there was nothing he could do to get the teacher's attention, the student went to another part of the same forest and built himself a house. Years later, when he was sweeping up fallen leaves, he was enlightened. He then dropped everything, ran through the forest to his teacher and said "Thank you."

(John CAGE; Silence, page 85.)




This second time, the teacher hadn't got his i-Pod in and replied "Who are you?"

That's the one! Thanks, ferney.

[Serial_Apologist]

Certainly become colder today?

6.5 C and very drear for french frank's visit here today.

I just bury myself in music and old films and put on weight for a few months.

[doversoul1]

After a long and arduous journey, a young Japanese man arrived deep in a forest where the teacher of his choice was living in a small house he had made. When the student arrived, the teacher was sweeping up fallen leaves. Greeting his master, the young man received no greeting in return. And to all his questions, there were no replies. Realizing there was nothing he could do to get the teacher's attention, the student went to another part of the same forest and built himself a house. Years later, when he was sweeping up fallen leaves, he was enlightened. He then dropped everything, ran through the forest to his teacher and said "Thank you."

(John CAGE; Silence, page 85.)




This second time, the teacher hadn't got his i-Pod in and replied "Who are you?"

This is very interesting. Sweeping leaves as a way to enlightenment is like an old weather proverb that most people know but if the teller or the intended audience of this story had been Japanese, the story would have been different;

Not expecting any words from the master, the young man settled himself in the master’s hut (never a house), doing the chores while watching and copying the master. All in silence. Until one day, when he was sweeping the leaves, he was enlightened. So, the young man (maybe no longer young) left the master, build his own hut and continued as his master had done (making sure to update his i-pod).