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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37361

    Originally posted by Anna View Post
    Why are star charts back to front? They have West and East transposed (ok, someone will tell me there's a logical explanation but I know that West is on the left ... ) Also, that website won't let me be interactive.

    It seems I have to find Orion's Belt to see if it's Sirius instead of Procyon, and most infuriating, I have temporarily mislaid my compass, I was going to put it on the windowledge last night to get an accurate bearing. Assuming I was awake enough to faff around at that hour.

    S_A's warning about London & SE & SW torrential rain for tomorrow with half a month's rain also applies to Sunday it seems with a yellow warning for both days. Here, checking our monthly rainfall we've had 177.5mm (nearly 7") as against the average for October of 73.6mm

    marthe, we had an outbreak of the 'tricking' i.e., silly string, eggs, etc., and the local police stamped down hard on it, since then it's all been peaceful, Guy Fawkes is our celebration, but as someone once said to me 'Why celebrate a failure?'
    Small children (mainly girls of about 6-7 years of age), in "threatening" fancy dress and facepaint, pestering shoppers with Tricks or Treats this afternoon, no parents within visible view. One woman shopper snapped "NO!!! GO AWAY!!!".

    This morning's moderate rain petered out around midday, but the associated frontal cloud veil has not moved on, indicating ahead the system's return tonight as a warm front. Checking October's temperatures for here, the maximum was 0.5 C above normal, but the minimum 2.8 C above normal. That's a huge delay in the autumnal fall usually experienced in October, and helps account for the very high rainfall levels being experienced in the south here, in particular.

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    • amateur51

      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
      Meanwhile, Anna: tick tock tick tock....

      It's too early for panto Caliban!

      Oh no it's not ...

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      • Anna

        Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
        It's too early for panto Caliban!
        Oh no it's not ...
        Oh, Yes It Is. Cali was merely reminding me to listen to the episode of Algernon Blackwood, which was an invitation to the Witches' Sabbath - but I've already heard it! I'm not sure whether he was implying I too could be a Witch .... I do fancy myself as Morgan Le Fay of course!

        S_A, Trick or treaters could be construed as demanding money with menaces I suppose? But you have to question the wisdom of parents allowing such young children out on the streets without supervision.

        Oh, ontopic, very little leaf fall here and trees very slow to change colour.
        Last edited by Guest; 31-10-13, 18:49. Reason: awful spelling!

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26458

          Originally posted by Anna View Post
          Oh, Yes It Is. Cali was merely reminding me to listen to the episode of Algernon Blackwood, which was an invitation to the Witches' Sabbath - but I've already heard it! I'm not sure whether he was implying I too could be a Witch ....
          No - just a Philip Madoc fan...

          Anyone else who fancies 30 spooky minutes of gravelly Welsh gothic on Halloween has 5 or so hours left to listen to the final part of "Ancient Sorceries":


          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37361

            Originally posted by Anna View Post
            Oh, Yes It Is. Cali was merely reminding me to listen to the episode of Algernon Blackwood, which was an invitation to the Witches' Sabbath - but I've already heard it! I'm not sure whether he was implying I too could be a Witch .... I do fancy myself as Morgan Le Fay of course!

            S_A, Trick or treaters could be construed as demanding money with menaces I suppose? But you have to question the wisdom of parents allowing such young children out on the streets without supervision.

            Oh, ontopic, very little leaf fall here and trees very slow to change colour.
            Most of our horse chestnuts are bare, suffering as they have done for some years now from a disease that turns leaves brown in August in this part of the world. Leaves on our "natives" tend to turn colour once there's been an air frost, which hasn't occurred yet, in the south.

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            • mangerton
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3346

              Originally posted by Anna View Post
              Why are star charts back to front? They have West and East transposed (ok, someone will tell me there's a logical explanation but I know that West is on the left ... ) Also, that website won't let me be interactive.

              It seems I have to find Orion's Belt to see if it's Sirius instead of Procyon, and most infuriating, I have temporarily mislaid my compass, I was going to put it on the windowledge last night to get an accurate bearing. Assuming I was awake enough to faff around at that hour.

              S_A's warning about London & SE & SW torrential rain for tomorrow with half a month's rain also applies to Sunday it seems with a yellow warning for both days. Here, checking our monthly rainfall we've had 177.5mm (nearly 7") as against the average for October of 73.6mm

              marthe, we had an outbreak of the 'tricking' i.e., silly string, eggs, etc., and the local police stamped down hard on it, since then it's all been peaceful, Guy Fawkes is our celebration, but as someone once said to me 'Why celebrate a failure?'

              Anna, the starchart confused me too to begin with. Try this. Imagine you're standing facing south. Tilt your head back so that you're gazing straight up. Now take the star chart as shown and hold it above your head, and you'll see that the directions are correct. Yes, it's very strange!

              With apologies to marthe, trickortreating and pumpkins are ghastly American imports. In my day, we dressed up, applied burnt cork to our faces and took our turnip (ie swede/rutabaga) lanterns to go guising. We were expected to do some sort of turn - a song, a poem or a few jokes - and in return we would be given an apple or some nuts. With a bit of luck, we might have got a few coppers, which were carefully saved to buy squibs (a penny each, then) for Guy Fawkes night, or possibly letting off on the way back to school after lunch.

              OT, pouring rain here, but still mild.

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              • eighthobstruction
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 6406

                Originally posted by Anna View Post
                Why are star charts back to front? They have West and East transposed (ok, someone will tell me there's a logical explanation but I know that West is on the left ... ) Also, that website won't let me be interactive.




                :
                Just as well they will not allow interactivity....what with as you say - the bottom front, or is it front bottom....

                ....anyway at the beginning of the universe there was no N,S,E W....
                bong ching

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                • amateur51

                  Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                  Just as well they will not allow interactivity....what with as you say - the bottom front, or is it front bottom....

                  ....anyway at the beginning of the universe there was no N,S,E W....
                  As someone with no sense of direction whatsoever, I find that strangely consoling eighthO

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                  • salymap
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5969

                    I think that very bright star nearer to Christmas is Orion, or one of his 'belt' of stars.

                    No rain here so far today but I thought it rather chilly - my back doesn't like it and sciatica strikes.

                    No trick or treat this year but all the local shops are advertising fireworks. Wish they would give up on Guy Fawkes-he was a failure as someone said.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26458

                      Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                      Just as well they will not allow interactivity....what with as you say - the bottom front, or is it front bottom....
                      Nicely slipped in, 8tho

                      Frenchie won't have noticed, no worries
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • Anna

                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                        Nicely slipped in, 8tho

                        Frenchie won't have noticed, no worries
                        But I noticed ... I usually do, when things are slipped in, however nicely!

                        I can now understand, thanks to mangerton's explanation, why star charts are back to front, thanks. I cannot though understand how anyone can carve a swede. they're hard enough to cut into wedges for roasting, let alone carve a face into one. Quite sweet to think of mangerton as a wee bairn, in his short grey trews, Clarkes sandals, grubby face and a fairisle jersey, reciting Rabbi Burns for pennies. Makes me think of him as a Just William. (I was, quite unexpectedly, trick or treated last night, first time in years)

                        Ontopic, ok day, bit of mizzley rain, warmish, think Sunday will be nice here.

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26458

                          Originally posted by Anna View Post
                          But I noticed ... I usually do, when things are slipped in, however nicely!





                          Originally posted by Anna View Post
                          I was, quite unexpectedly, trick or treated last night, first time in years






                          There was a small posse of gruesome infants rambling round the leafy groves of West London last night, covered by parents at a discreet distance armed with light automatic weapons... I fear the innocence of unsupervised trick-or-treating may be a thing of the past

                          Has anyone seen the episode of "Curb your Enthusiasm" about trick-or-treating? One of the best...

                          "felony-or-treat"...

                          ... it culminates in Larry David conducting Wagner with a live orchestra on the front lawn of a fellow Jewish neighbour, at dawn

                          On topic - a bit damp here, drizzle earlier, heavy rain promised later ... hope it holds off long enough for me to cycle home...
                          Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 01-11-13, 18:02.
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • mangerton
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3346

                            Originally posted by Anna View Post
                            But I noticed ... I usually do, when things are slipped in, however nicely!

                            I can now understand, thanks to mangerton's explanation, why star charts are back to front, thanks. I cannot though understand how anyone can carve a swede. they're hard enough to cut into wedges for roasting, let alone carve a face into one. Quite sweet to think of mangerton as a wee bairn, in his short grey trews, Clarkes sandals, grubby face and a fairisle jersey, reciting Rabbi Burns for pennies. Makes me think of him as a Just William. (I was, quite unexpectedly, trick or treated last night, first time in years)

                            Ontopic, ok day, bit of mizzley rain, warmish, think Sunday will be nice here.
                            I'll let your first para pass. My reaction is the same as Caliban's.

                            You are quite right.... carving a swede, and it was probably about 8" diameter, was extremely hard work. My mother did it for my sister and me, and when I made a turnip lantern for miss m 35 years or so later, I understood the meaning of the expression "labour of love". But that was what was done in Scotland before pumpkins were invented.

                            I hope you enjoyed your t or t. I remained undisturbed.

                            It's been a lovely day here today. I took this pic from the front of mangerton towers this week:

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                            • teamsaint
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25177

                              when the trick or treaters ask, I always tell them that I'd like a treat .

                              Damp cold and a bit grey here.




                              The weathers not much better.
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                              • Anna

                                Lovely photo mangerton! And such a blue sky - in Dundee! Without photoshop!

                                Well, finally, after yet another delay, I have just had had confirmation that my back door, etc., replacement is scheduled for this coming Monday! Luckily the weather forecast seems dry and bright. I also interviewed a General Builder - nice guy, old fashioned sort, comfortingly silver haired and rotund with paint spattered trousers and a Pringle jumper, everyone's favourite Grandpa, who seemed very enthusiastic about fixing my leaky flue but muttered darkly about Roman Tiles being three quid a piece. Anyway, he's going to phone with an estimate. So, hopefully, I shall, by the end of the week, be draughtproof and leakproof!

                                I see it's half-term in Chambers (or TGIF) and Cali has been infected with the Friday emoticons ...........

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